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Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 03:44 PM

Master of Hounds in KY Derby? (Yes!)
 
anyone have any news over there in the magical lands of Ireland about this one coming over?

What about the Arabs? Surely they must be mulling someone to have over, after this weekend, at least think about Arthurs Tale

PatCummings 04-11-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 768156)
anyone have any news over there in the magical lands of Ireland about this one coming over?

What about the Arabs? Surely they must be mulling someone to have over, after this weekend, at least think about Arthurs Tale

Highly doubtful to send anyone from Dubai, but US-based Arthur's Tale would seem their most likely choice. Master Of Hounds surely looks better after this weekend and ran a crackup race in the UAE Derby, he is possible from what I've read overseas and been told.

Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 04:33 PM

yeah you would think even without a real top class 3 year old like they have had in years past, they can take advantage of this suspect crop of 3 yr olds with someone like Master. I also would hope they would employ an American rider for him and if not at least try to Frankie on him if Godolphin will let him.

PatCummings 04-11-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 768170)
yeah you would think even without a real top class 3 year old like they have had in years past, they can take advantage of this suspect crop of 3 yr olds with someone like Master. I also would hope they would employ an American rider for him and if not at least try to Frankie on him if Godolphin will let him.

Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

RolloTomasi 04-11-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 768186)
Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

Didn't they use American jockeys the last time they took a shot at the Kentucky Derby (2002 with Johannesburg and Castle Gandolfo)?

The 2000 Guineas is the same day.

tjfla 04-11-2011 05:29 PM

O'Brien said MOH is a KY Derby horse(he is also nominated to the TC)but the owners will decide between that and the Guineas

Arthur's Tale on the other hand was suppose to do the Wood-Peter Pan-Belmont route,but now are looking at the Derby. The only problem is with $200,000 in earnings he prolly won't get in since the Arkansas Derby will get 2 or 3 in and the Bluegrass will get Santiva and whoever wins in

Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 768186)
Master Of Hounds is with Aidan O'Brien, not Godolphin, so they'll probably get one of their guys to ride, anything else would be shocking.

yeah I know but on occassion Frankie has ridden for O'brien.

Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 768187)
Didn't they use American jockeys the last time they took a shot at the Kentucky Derby (2002 with Johannesburg and Castle Gandolfo)?

The 2000 Guineas is the same day.

yeah but gone are the days of Gary Stevens and Jerry Bailey.

Since JR is taken, they will usually go with Prado or Gomez. God forbid Jamie Spencer is used

Dahoss 04-11-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 768189)
yeah I know but on occassion Frankie has ridden for O'brien.

When?

Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 768191)
When?

I know they won the English St Ledger a few years ago with Scorpion

Dahoss 04-11-2011 06:24 PM

There's a better chance Cordero will come out of retirement and ride the horse (if he comes) than Dettori.

Dahoss 04-11-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 768192)
I know they won the English St Ledger a few years ago with Scorpion

In 2005. According to an article I just read it was only the 2nd time he had ever ridden for him.

Seattleallstar 04-11-2011 08:51 PM

yes but Frankie and Obrien have said, if the opportunity comes up and the Sheik agrees he will ride for the Irish

Seattleallstar 04-16-2011 07:01 PM

after this weekend, they should surely consider sending him to Churchill. There are no Frankel's on this side of the pond

Also for Sheik Mo and the boys, its a shame they dont have a runner in the most wide open Derby in years.

freddymo 04-16-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 769534)

Also for Sheik Mo and the boys, its a shame they dont have a runner in the most wide open Derby in years.


Yeah a real fn pity

Kasept 04-18-2011 09:07 AM

Expect Master of Hounds for Derby
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...kentucky-derby

randallscott35 04-18-2011 09:18 AM

Somerfrost rejoices.

Seattleallstar 04-18-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 769923)
Somerfrost rejoices.

as do I!!

My friend in New York who lives in Saratoga can breathe easy now cause I'm off a horse we mutually liked for the Derby.

tjfla 04-18-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 769994)
as do I!!

My friend in New York who lives in Saratoga can breathe easy now cause I'm off a horse we mutually liked for the Derby.

What type of horse is he? I know he ran in the Juvy Turf,but is he a stalker?closer?

Any info is great

The Indomitable DrugS 04-18-2011 03:53 PM

If they're ever going to do it - I guess this year looks as good as any.


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