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Kasept 07-13-2011 04:41 PM

7/16 (HOL): American Oaks (G1), A Gleam (G2), Landaluce S.
 
4th (2:34) Landaluce S.

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Woebegon Pedroza M A 117 L
2 Killer Graces Talamo J 120 L
3 Stayclassysandiego Espinoza V 117
4 Mighty Caroline Rosario J 117 L
5 Chloe W Bejarano R 115 L
6 Son de America Baze T C 117



6th (3:36) American Oaks S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Entrustment Quinonez A 121 L
2 Love Theway Youare Espinoza V 121 L
3 Nereid Talamo J 121 L
4 Cambina (IRE) Garcia M 121 L
5 Star Billing Rosario J 121 L
6 Bizzy Caroline Bejarano R 121 L



9th (5:07) A Gleam H. (G2)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Church Camp Quinonez A 114 L
2 Fund Raiser Bejarano R 118 L
3 American Story Rosario J 115 Blk-On L
4 Ultra Blend Flores D R 119 L
5 Irish Gypsy Garcia M 120 L
6 Mildly Offensive Sutherland C 112 L
7 Washington Bridge Talamo J 115 L
8 Tanda Espinoza V 117 L
9 Shotgun Gulch Smith M E 119 L

NTamm1215 07-13-2011 04:45 PM

No love for the American Oaks? ;)

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 05:13 PM

Did Mildly Offensive end up running at Hollywood this whole meet?

After her two monster wins at Santa Anita, there was talk of races like the Acorn, Eight Belles, Prioress, etc.

If she does well this weekend, I hope they wheel back in the Test.

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 790956)
No love for the American Oaks? ;)

I don't like her running style, but Love Theway Youare has some interesting turf breeding, being by Arch out of a Tabasco Cat mare. While not the greatest sire in the world, Tabasco Cat's progeny seem to do well on turf.

Furthermore, the 3rd dam is the great turf mare Sabin.

NTamm1215 07-13-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 790961)
Did Mildly Offensive end up running at Hollywood this whole meet?

After her two monster wins at Santa Anita, there was talk of races like the Acorn, Eight Belles, Prioress, etc.

If she does well this weekend, I hope they wheel back in the Test.

She ran in the Manhattan Beach on turf and fared poorly. She's been campaigned with no confidence it would seem.

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 790970)
She ran in the Manhattan Beach on turf and fared poorly. She's been campaigned with no confidence it would seem.

Yeah, I went and looked at the stakes nom PPs on the track website. She wasn't even favored in that inconsequential turf race.

She had a big reputation at Santa Anita. Pretty sure she got a hefty Beyer at least for the maiden win.

blackthroatedwind 07-13-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 790990)
Yeah, I went and looked at the stakes nom PPs on the track website. She wasn't even favored in that inconsequential turf race.

She had a big reputation at Santa Anita. Pretty sure she got a hefty Beyer at least for the maiden win.

Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 790993)
Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

The thing is, you can't beat California weather.

The irony being that it has all-weather racing surfaces.

Scav 07-13-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 790993)
Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

If the race was at Del Mar I would agree with you but dirt form does hold up well at Hollywood. Distance and company is more of an issue with her then surface in this instance.

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 790956)
No love for the American Oaks? ;)

By the way, are you going to change your avatar, or are you waiting for Godolphin to win with something in this country, too?

NTamm1215 07-13-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 791011)
By the way, are you going to change your avatar, or are you waiting for Godolphin to win with something in this country, too?

Took care of it for you.

GPK 07-13-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 791014)
Took care of it for you.

John Lovitz?:)

NTamm1215 07-13-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 791016)
John Lovitz?:)

Not a chance, he could get Twirling Candy to go 10 furlongs.

GPK 07-13-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 791019)
Not a chance, he could get Twirling Candy to go 10 furlongs.

I laughed.

VOL JACK 07-13-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 790956)
No love for the American Oaks? ;)

Boy that used to be a decent race.

Dahoss 07-14-2011 12:09 AM

How about Tanda in the A Gleam?

NTamm1215 07-14-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 791051)
How about Tanda in the A Gleam?

Her campaign has been awfully odd. I really liked her as a 3YO and was waiting for her to come back this year. Instead of the Las Flores on dirt, Hendricks went with the downhill race. That Milady was a disaster from the start, then she just got a little tired last time.

I like her on Saturday because she has enough speed to stay close and there's not a lot of pace in there at all. Her darkened form should help get a decent price too.

RolloTomasi 07-14-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 791058)
Her campaign has been awfully odd. I really liked her as a 3YO and was waiting for her to come back this year. Instead of the Las Flores on dirt, Hendricks went with the downhill race. That Milady was a disaster from the start, then she just got a little tired last time.

I like her on Saturday because she has enough speed to stay close and there's not a lot of pace in there at all. Her darkened form should help get a decent price too.

That barn seems to have trouble getting their better horses back to form after going to the bench. Rigoletta was retired after 2 starts following an injury after the Oak Leaf. Daytona struggled for over a year trying to comeback and then was retired after scratching from his comeback. Brother Derek ran a handful of times after the Triple Crown, but was nowhere near the same horse. Indian Sun, who placed in a couple of Derby preps, made a couple starts when he returned, but then disappeared. Beresford, a promising juvenile in 2007, ultimately dropped into claimers when he resurfaced.

Like you say, though, Tanda has been campaigned oddly. It's kind of surprising they wheeled her back two weeks after the Milady to run in a turf race. They ran the Desert Stormer, 6f on the main track, two weeks after that. Seemed like the perfect race to "reboot" for the A Gleam and the rest of the season.

ateamstupid 07-14-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 791008)
If the race was at Del Mar I would agree with you but dirt form does hold up well at Hollywood. Distance and company is more of an issue with her then surface in this instance.

Do you have any stats to back this up? I hear this notion a lot, but I've yet to see any hard evidence behind it.

Scav 07-14-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 791092)
Do you have any stats to back this up? I hear this notion a lot, but I've yet to see any hard evidence behind it.

No stats, just from my handicapping experiences and seeing the results and paying attention as much as I do. I wouldn't even know how to find the stats to back up the opinion.


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