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joeydb 11-21-2011 01:06 PM

Newt on "Occupy Wall Street"...
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ke_a_bath.html

Newt Gingrich offers his advice to the "Occupy" protesters.

"Go get a job after you take a bath," he said to raucous applause at the Thanksgiving Family Forum in Des Moines, Iowa.

Antitrust32 11-21-2011 01:09 PM

I dont know whats worse, his comment regarding Occupy Wall Street, or that he participated in the Thanksgiving Family Forum :zz:

come on Newt, you're better than that. No need to butter up the outrageous religous right.

jms62 11-21-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 819209)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ke_a_bath.html

Newt Gingrich offers his advice to the "Occupy" protesters.

"Go get a job after you take a bath," he said to raucous applause at the Thanksgiving Family Forum in Des Moines, Iowa.

Smart guy this serial adulterer running for president and all and assuming ALL supporters of Occupy Wallstreet are Dems and insulting them. :zz:

somerfrost 11-21-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 819211)
Smart guy this serial adulterer running for president and all and assuming ALL supporters of Occupy Wallstreet are Dems and insulting them. :zz:

He's made comments linking the protestors to a "breakdown of the country's moral values"...pot, meet kettle! Newt my man, you've been gaining in the polls thanks largely to keeping your mouth shut....weird time to abandon that practice.

Antitrust32 11-21-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 819253)
He's made comments linking the protestors to a "breakdown of the country's moral values"...pot, meet kettle! Newt my man, you've been gaining in the polls thanks largely to keeping your mouth shut....weird time to abandon that practice.

I hope he was just being an a$$ because he was talking infront of a large number of assholes (Thanksgiving Family Forum).. just being a typical politician.

Newt is probably the most brilliant choice we have for 2012... and he needs to stay far far away from being a typical religious hypocrite.

Riot 11-21-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 819255)
I hope he was just being an a$$ because he was talking infront of a large number of assholes (Thanksgiving Family Forum).. just being a typical politician.

Newt is probably the most brilliant choice we have for 2012... and he needs to stay far far away from being a typical religious hypocrite.

Brilliant? How in the world so?

Newt is a wholly-owned lobbyist. He's a serial liar, wholly untrustworthy. He was never "brilliant" in a smart way, especially when he was in office - he was literally kicked out by his party just after he was just re-elected.

Antitrust32 11-21-2011 05:16 PM

Brilliant in that he's probably forgot more about good policy and politics than Obama has ever learned.

Riot 11-21-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 819297)
Brilliant in that he's probably forgot more about good policy and politics than Obama has ever learned.

Well, good policy and good politics are two entirely different things ;)

The only credit I'll give Newt (having lived through his first political incarnation) is that he rightly would cross party lines to make deals, as they all should. However, he woefully exaggerates his place in history throughout his term as Speaker.

joeydb 11-22-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 819297)
Brilliant in that he's probably forgot more about good policy and politics than Obama has ever learned.

:tro: Winner

Danzig 11-22-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 819295)
Brilliant? How in the world so?

Newt is a wholly-owned lobbyist. He's a serial liar, wholly untrustworthy. He was never "brilliant" in a smart way, especially when he was in office - he was literally kicked out by his party just after he was just re-elected.

well, i guess with newt you know what you're getting, unlike other pols. well, you know what you're getting with all them too, but they act like they're not your typical politician.

BigBlue 11-22-2011 10:22 AM

If you woke up tomorrow and needed somebody to take the reigns, you'd have to go with Newt, as imperfect as that might be. I think he's the only one with a fighting chance against President Obama - and I don't believe that will be (or should be) enough.

joeydb 11-22-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBlue (Post 819424)
If you woke up tomorrow and needed somebody to take the reigns, you'd have to go with Newt, as imperfect as that might be. I think he's the only one with a fighting chance against President Obama - and I don't believe that will be (or should be) enough.

I agree - just one correction: I think you meant "take the reins". Sounds the same but big difference - after all, we are a constitutionally federated republic and we do not have a king - no matter what the current occupant of the White House thinks.

Riot 11-22-2011 02:24 PM

So you guys that like Newt ... do you like his idea for poor kids in elementary school working for their education by cleaning the bathrooms in their schools?

How about poor children being taken away from their parents, if the parents are on welfare, and put into orphanages to save the state money by not paying that parent for child welfare? You know, keep those welfare queens from making more babies just for the riches.

Riot 11-22-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 819451)
I agree - just one correction: I think you meant "take the reins". Sounds the same but big difference - after all, we are a constitutionally federated republic and we do not have a king - no matter what the current occupant of the White House thinks.

:zz: How so? Specific example?

BigBlue 11-22-2011 03:11 PM

Wow, if there's one word on this board that I should get right you would think it would be "reins." I appreciate the catch.

Given the developments of the last couple of days I would welcome some "reigning." All very sad. Sometimes I wish President Obama would do a little more reigning. Right now everything feels very directionless. Hard to believe 12 smart people can be put in a room for months and come out with nothing. I just have trouble understanding that.

hi_im_god 11-22-2011 03:13 PM

when do the tea partiers start chewing newt's leg off over his long standing support for individual mandates?

aren't we in a constitutional crisis over this?

that heritage foundation is a fount of socialistic idea's.

Danzig 11-22-2011 03:34 PM

i don't care for newt; i think he has too much baggage to actually be a viable candidate.
but, he's the latest non-romney to get attention. i don't care for any of the choices for 2010 at this point. and that includes the current office holder.

Honu 11-22-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 819469)
So you guys that like Newt ... do you like his idea for poor kids in elementary school working for their education by cleaning the bathrooms in their schools?

How about poor children being taken away from their parents, if the parents are on welfare, and put into orphanages to save the state money by not paying that parent for child welfare? You know, keep those welfare queens from making more babies just for the riches.

Might be a little out there but......not very along in ago in this nations growing regions it was expected that if you could walk and talk you better get your butt to work to help out. Cut the grass , pull weeds, haul hay and muck stalls, along with feeidng the livestock. Everyone should know the value of hardwork its what makes getting an education more valuable.
Some of those kids from crap homes would be well served to learn how to clean and do janitorial work. They could grow up and have a skill, join the Union and get very well payed for scrubbing toilets.

Coach Pants 11-23-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 819486)
when do the tea partiers start chewing newt's leg off over his long standing support for individual mandates?

aren't we in a constitutional crisis over this?

that heritage foundation is a fount of socialistic idea's.

Americans secretly love socialism. Newt vs. Obama will be an epic battle.

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 819552)
Might be a little out there but......not very along in ago in this nations growing regions it was expected that if you could walk and talk you better get your butt to work to help out. Cut the grass , pull weeds, haul hay and muck stalls, along with feeidng the livestock. Everyone should know the value of hardwork its what makes getting an education more valuable.
Some of those kids from crap homes would be well served to learn how to clean and do janitorial work. They could grow up and have a skill, join the Union and get very well payed for scrubbing toilets.

Yeah how awful.

Riot 11-23-2011 11:38 AM

It seems Newts point was entirely missed by his fans:

Elementary school education should not be free and open to everyone.
It should be privatized and cost money.

(Right there, I can't see how anyone could support that change in the United States of America.)

Yet, Newt goes on:

Those children too poor to afford the cost of a basic education could work for it.

They could do so by doing a job that is now considered too dangerous and illegal for them to do (work with toxic chemicals, exposure to disease, etc)

Child labor laws are "stupid" (Newt's word) and now prevent that, and should be repealed to allow this.

Newts ideas have nothing at all to do with the way kids nowadays start their work careers at age 14 or so by working part-time after school or on weekends.


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