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dellinger63 01-13-2014 09:03 AM

A-Rod Story on 60-Minutes
 
Not sure if anyone caught it but if CBS is correct, and the evidence of the blackberry text messages is a smoking gun IMO, A Rod not only cheated, he made a full-time job of it.

Wonder how many reporters are scouring through film of A-Rod just before a game and into the first inning to catch him in the act of juicing.

randallscott35 01-13-2014 09:21 AM

Bad people do bad things. And then lie about it.

santana 01-13-2014 10:14 AM

Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

dellinger63 01-13-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 960762)
Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

Guess that's why Bosch got paid.

randallscott35 01-13-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 960762)
Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

Lance Armstrong beat them all the time too.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 960762)
Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

And those are the facts. He should not be judged/punished based on public perception of him. 162 game suspension is absurd. 50 games for first violation. So technically 50 would even be too much, but at least not so absurd.

keithting 01-14-2014 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 960762)
Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

In the 60 Minutes interview, Bosch said it was a very easy to beat a positive test result. He talked about taking mandatory samples in "mid stream" (not the beginning or end) to avoid catching drug metabolites in urine.

He made it seem like any drug testing protocol was very easy to beat if you knew what you were doing......

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by santana (Post 960762)
Looks like he did something...But to never fail a drug test, and never get caught, that is strange...

He admitted to using.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.389456

The biggest mistake Selig made was to wage this ridiculous war with ARod and risk making him look like a "victim".

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 960829)
In the 60 Minutes interview, Bosch said it was a very easy to beat a positive test result. He talked about taking mandatory samples in "mid stream" (not the beginning or end) to avoid catching drug metabolites in urine.

He made it seem like any drug testing protocol was very easy to beat if you knew what you were doing......

So now in American we are guilty until proven innocent?
Good to know.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 960831)
He admitted to using.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.389456

The biggest mistake Selig made was to wage this ridiculous war with ARod and risk making him look like a "victim".

Paying big money to a known liar.... "Baseball" looks great. Its kind of a dying sport anyway, no??
7th or 8th most popular in this country now?

Cannon Shell 01-14-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960833)
Paying big money to a known liar.... "Baseball" looks great. Its kind of a dying sport anyway, no??
7th or 8th most popular in this country now?

He is guilty and has already admitted it. This is just overkill.

Baseball is clearly still one of the top 3 most popular sports in this country.

jms62 01-14-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960833)
Paying big money to a known liar.... "Baseball" looks great. Its kind of a dying sport anyway, no??
7th or 8th most popular in this country now?

I know how you can make some money to cover your football losses. Write an EBook on the art of trolling. Your original nonsense got no play so you followed it up with this.

randallscott35 01-14-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 960842)
I know how you can make some money to cover your football losses. Write an EBook on the art of trolling. Your original nonsense got no play so you followed it up with this.

Exactly...It's become an act now, so he won't be getting responses.

Patrick333 01-14-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960833)
Paying big money to a known liar.... "Baseball" looks great. Its kind of a dying sport anyway, no??
7th or 8th most popular in this country now?

You must be kidding. BTW, how do you think the NBA or the NFL would look if they had a real drug testing policy?

jms62 01-14-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 960844)
You must be kidding. BTW, how do you think the NBA or the NFL would look if they had a real drug testing policy?


Fish on.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 960842)
I know how you can make some money to cover your football losses. Write an EBook on the art of trolling. Your original nonsense got no play so you followed it up with this.

Jim it was 1 minute later. I was sitting at my desk and wanted to add the second point. So the got no play thing makes no sense.Im not trolling.
NCAA football and basketball have both passed MLB. NBA and NFL cleary. Soccer, Tennis and Golf are all right there as well.
Now were at the point where I am a mush and a liar. And when you dont agree with my opinion Im trolling? Arod has never tested positive. That was my point. The fact that he admitted to using later on to save face does not matter much to me.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 960843)
Exactly...It's become an act now, so he won't be getting responses.

THank you. You dont really say much anyway, and none of you actually talk horse racing.

RockHardTen1985 01-14-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 960844)
You must be kidding. BTW, how do you think the NBA or the NFL would look if they had a real drug testing policy?

Likely just as bad. But that was not the point.

Danzig 01-14-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 960919)
Jim it was 1 minute later. I was sitting at my desk and wanted to add the second point. So the got no play thing makes no sense.Im not trolling.
NCAA football and basketball have both passed MLB. NBA and NFL cleary. Soccer, Tennis and Golf are all right there as well.
Now were at the point where I am a mush and a liar. And when you dont agree with my opinion Im trolling? Arod has never tested positive. That was my point. The fact that he admitted to using later on to save face does not matter much to me.



Poll finds baseball second-most popular American sport
By Matt Snyder | Baseball Writer
January 7, 2013 1:33 pm ET

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-...-american-spor


no golf, tennis or soccer in sight.

note that the gap between mlb and ncaaf grew from the previous year.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...oo-big-to-fail

'For now, the National Football League is doing quite well. The league brings in an annual revenue of $9.5 billion. To put that number into perspective, Major League Baseball, the second-highest grossing league in the USA, had an annual revenue of $7 billion in 2012 and the NFL more than doubles the National Basketball Association and their revenue of “just” $4 billion'

King Glorious 01-15-2014 02:55 PM

I can't help but laugh at all of the outrage of the public in these matter of players using drugs. We believe that the number of guys using is pretty high yet according to the poll listed by Danzig, the sport still made $7b in revenue and is the second most popular in the country. "I hate you all.....now here, take my money." I think people talk about how bothered they are by the cheating because it seems like the right thing to do but inside, they don't actually care. I know I don't. I don't watch sports for the morals. I watch it to be entertained. If I'm going to the stadium, I want to see a 600-ft home run. I wouldn't care if a guy called time out at home plate and stuck the needle in right there. As long as I'm entertained, for the prices they charge, I'm good.

I remember years ago, Chris Rock was doing a show and he was talking about people that smoke crack. He mentioned Marion Barry. One of his jokes went like this, "I was talking to a group of kids and telling them crack is bad, don't smoke crack, you'll never be anything in life. One of the kids yelled back 'I can be mayor." I think about that joke when when I think about Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens, and Barry Bonds. Yeah, those guys won't make the hall of fame. But they enjoyed tremendous careers, tremendous fame, and made tons of money. They and their families are set for generations. Look at Ryan Braun. He'll come off of his suspension with a new deal making $20 million plus per year. Where, I ask, is the incentive for guys NOT to cheat?


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