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Kasept 02-23-2024 03:41 AM

3yo CLASSIC TRAIL/SUMMER STANDARDS ~ Probables/Possibles
 
6/8: BELMONT STAKES, Saratoga, 10f

Mystik Dan/Thorpedo Anna (McPeek)
Sierra Leone (Brown)
Fierceness/Mindframe (Pletcher)
Antiquarian (Pletcher)
The Wine Steward (Maker)
Honor Marie (Beckman)
Dornoch (Gargan)
Seize the Grey (Lukas)
Tuscan Gold (Brown)

Kasept 04-02-2024 09:25 PM

Timberlake bypassing Derby..

Merlinsky 04-04-2024 09:26 AM

Doesn't this essentially mean Wynstock and Imagination are bypassing the Derby? They'll have no points since they're entered by Baffert.

Kasept 04-04-2024 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1177791)
Doesn't this essentially mean Wynstock and Imagination are bypassing the Derby? They'll have no points since they're entered by Baffert.

Yes. They were only going to earn points had they been transferred to other trainers by the January deadline.

Kasept 04-07-2024 07:38 AM

1. Sierra Leone (Chad Brown/Tyler Gaffalione) 155
2. Fierceness (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) 136
3. Catching Freedom (Brad Cox/Flavien Prat) 125
4. Stronghold (Phil D'Amato/Antonio Fresu) 125
5. Resilience (Bill Mott/Junior Alvarado) 110
6. Forever Young (Susumu Fujita/Ryusei Sakai) 100
7. Endlessly (Michael McCarthy/Umberto Rispoli) 100
8. Dornoch (Danny Gargan/Luis Saez) 75
9. Just a Touch (Brad Cox/Florent Geroux) 75
10. Track Phantom (Steve Asmussen/Joel Rosario) 70

11. West Saratoga (Larry Demeritte/Jesus Castanon) 67
12. Just Steel (Wayne Lukas/Keith Asmussen) 65
13. Honor Marie (Whit Beckman/Ben Curtis) 65
14. Domestic Product (Chad Brown/Irad Ortiz) 60
15. Catalytic (Saffie Joseph/Jose Ortiz) 50
16. Society Man (Danny Gargan/Frankie Dettori) 50
17. Mystik Dan (Kenny McPeek/Brian Hernandez) 46
18. Encino (Brad Cox/TBA) 45
21. Grand Mo the First (Victor Barboza/Emisael Jaramillo) 40
20. T O Password (Daisuke Takayanga/Kaz Kimura) JPN
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21. Epic Ride 35 (John Ennis/Adam Beschizza)
22. Uncle Heavy 30 (Butch Reid/Mychel Sanchez)
23. Seize the Grey 27 (Wayne Lukas/Nik Juarez)
24. Le Dom Bro 25 (Eniel Cordero/Edwin Gonzalez)
25. Tuscan Gold 25 (Chad Brown/Tyler Gaffalione)
26. Protective 25 (Todd Pletcher/Kendrick Carmouche)

Kasept 04-08-2024 09:08 PM

Domestic Product gets Irad Ortiz..

Encino jumps to #21 with Lexington win..

No More Time suffers condylar fracture in workout at Palm Meadows and is out..

Encino in if Godolphin wants to run him..

Kasept 04-14-2024 06:13 PM

OAKS FIELD

1. Tarifa (Cox/Prat) 4-1
2. Where’s My Ring (Brinkerhoff/Lezcano) 10-1
3. Power Squeeze (Delgado/Centeno) 10-1
4. Leslie’s Rose (Pletcher/I. Ortiz) 9-2
5. Thorpedo Anna (McPeek/B. Hernandez) 5-1
6. Just F Y I (Mott/Alvarado) 5-1
7. Gin Gin (Cox/Franco) 30-1
8. Fiona’s Magic (Yates/Ruiz) 20-1
9. Regulatory Risk (Brown/TBA) 20-1
10. Tapit Jenallie (Milligan/Esquivel) 30-1
11. Everland (Foster/Cedillo) 20-1
12. Lemon Muffin (Lukas/K. Asmussen) 20-1
13. Into Champagne (Wilkes/Leparoux) 30-1
14. Ways and Means (Brown/TBA) 5-1
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15. Our Pretty Woman (Asmussen/Rosario)
16. Candied (Pletche/Saez)

Kasept 04-21-2024 01:29 PM

Grand Mo the First joins Derby field with Deterministic bypassing..

Endlessly remains very iffy after 2nd unappealing dirt work Saturday. Common Defense would be next into grid..

Jose Ortiz gets Catalytic..

Ben Curtis sticks on Honor Marie..

Regulatory Risk, 2nd in the Gazelle, is now likely to contend the Oaks pending a work this week..

Manama Gold, the Louisiana-bred winner of the UAE Oaks, is expected to supplement to the Oaks which would place her at #15 (first AE) on the grid..

Kasept 04-23-2024 05:31 AM

Nick Tammaro/Travis Stone Pace Quadrants

1. Dornoch (Danny Gargan/Luis Saez) ON
12. Track Phantom (Steve Asmussen/Joel Rosario) ON/NR
17. Fierceness (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) SPD
8. Just a Touch (Brad Cox/Florent Geroux) ON

10. T O Password (Daisuke Takayanga/Kaz Kimura) NR
5. Catalytic (Saffie Joseph/Jose Ortiz) NR
13. West Saratoga (Larry Demeritte/Jesus Castanon) NR
6. Just Steel (Wayne Lukas/Keith Asmussen) NR/JO

3. Mystik Dan (Kenny McPeek/Brian Hernandez) STK
9. Encino (Brad Cox/TBA) ON
15. Domestic Product (Chad Brown/Irad Ortiz) JO
18. Stronghold (Phil D'Amato/Antonio Fresu) NR
19. Resilience (Bill Mott/Junior Alvarado) NR/JO

7. Honor Marie (Whit Beckman/Ben Curtis) STK
14. Endlessly (Michael McCarthy/Umberto Rispoli) STK
13. Honor Marie (Whit Beckman/Ben Curtis) STK
20. Society Man (Danny Gargan/TBA) STK
11. Forever Young (Susumu Fujita/Ryusei Sakai) OFF

4. Catching Freedom (Brad Cox/Flavien Prat) OFF
2. Sierra Leone (Chad Brown/Tyler Gaffalione) CLR

cakes44 04-23-2024 01:52 PM

I’m guessing Seize the Gray gets in. Any wagers?

Kasept 04-24-2024 03:06 AM

Dettori rides Society Man..

Kasept 05-08-2024 06:20 AM

[/b]COLOR="darkorange"]5/18: PREAKNESS STAKES, Pimlico, 9.5f[/color][/b]

Mystik Dan (McPeek/B. Hernandez)
Catching Freedom (Cox/Prat)
Muth (Baffert/J. Hernandez)
Imagination (Baffert/Dettori)
Copper Tax (Capuano/Torrealba)
Tuscan Gold (Brown/Gaffalione)
Uncle Heavy (Reid/Sanchez)
Seize the Grey (Lukas/J. Torres)
Just Steel (Lukas/Rosario)
Mugatu (Engler/Bravo)

Kasept 05-08-2024 06:33 AM

PETER PAN

Antiquarian
Deterministic
Native Land
Protective
The Wine Steward
Unique Insight

Lonesome Boy - Long Branch
Tuscan Gold - Preakness

moses 05-09-2024 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1178210)
5/18: PREAKNESS STAKES, Pimlico, 9.5f

Mystik Dan (McPeek/Hernandez) ~ Probable
Muth (Baffert/)
Imagination (Baffert/Dettori)
Copper Tax (Capuano)
Tuscan Gold (Brown) ~ Entered Peter Pan
Uncle Heavy (Reid/Sanchez)
Seize the Grey (Lukas)
Just Steel (Lukas/Asmussen)
Mugatu (Engler/Bravo)

I am usually excited about betting an overlay in the Preakness and generally have a lot of success betting this race…but I’m underwhelmed here. Muth might be unstoppable. I did hit with Oxbow back during the Orb Derby year so maybe I’ll take a closer look at the Lukas horses. Hoping to see another horse or two added to this list to make things a little more interesting.

For Tuscan Gold, is the Peter Pan two turns this year since it’s not being run at Belmont?

Merlinsky 05-09-2024 09:36 AM

This is legitimately a sportsmanship issue and no way there are 18 horses having to bail on the Preakness because they didn't come out of the race well. McPeek and Lukas are acting like they have racehorses. Baffert's horses might be coming in fresh but he'd have no problem swinging around after two weeks as he's done it plenty of times before.

I'm gonna have to sit through Randy Moss running his mouth about changing the space between the races. Again. I still think Belinda's playing some sort of game after she couldn't move the Preakness to Laurel.

Kasept 05-09-2024 11:44 AM

Tuscan Gold to Preakness..

Kasept 05-09-2024 02:22 PM

Catching Freedom a Preakness possible..

moses 05-10-2024 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1178227)
Catching Freedom a Preakness possible..

This is great news. Is it too much to also ask for a rabbit from Chad or Brad to put pressure on the Baffert horses?

Kasept 05-11-2024 10:44 AM

Mystik Dan a Preakness starter..

Kasept 05-12-2024 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1178227)
Catching Freedom a Preakness possible..

Running..


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