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Real Quiet 03-18-2025 11:10 AM

ROI Results 3/15 @ Colonial
 
It was nice to see a Derby Prep at Colonial and a full house for it. As for our race picks
there might be a reason it's been almost two years since we visited here to make picks.
No one showed a profit or got any points with only Real Quiet and Joly B visiting the
cashiers window. In the Virginia Derby, Getaway Car and Rapture destroyed a lot of
tickets. Following are the unofficial results pending any inquiry or objection. Let me
know if I missed anything. See you all next week as we continue on the “Trail”.






Real Quiet -$9.80 R 8 $11 ex key 8 w 4-5-6 $8.20 X 11... $90.20

Joly B -$36.20 R 5: $1 Pick 6: 1 / 4 / 5 / 8 / X / 2... $59.80

Ruffian -$100.00

NJ Stinks -$100.00

Cal828 -$100.00

DonGuido -$100.00

Indian Hemp -$100.00

Digger SCR

JolyB 03-18-2025 07:11 PM

RQ, I'm embarrassed to even mention this since I'm still a net loser for the day. Of my 96 tickets, there were two, not one, that had 5 winners and qualified for the conso pick 6 of $29.90. They looked like (1) 1,4,5,8,6,2 and (2) 1,4,5,8,7,2.

Not important, just wanted to mention it. Calculating the number of conso payoffs really gets complicated if one actually does hit the pick 6 with multiple choices.

Real Quiet 03-19-2025 10:06 AM

Hi JB. It's better to get it right. Even after I read your post it took me a while to really "get it". I'll change your scoring and update your winnings. All and all that was a nice wager you made with limited combinations available, Virginia Derby excluded. Nicely played. PS..................scoring "Grand Slams" are even worse and one thing is for sure, I'm not afraid to ask for help!

JolyB 03-19-2025 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Real Quiet (Post 1181553)
Hi JB. It's better to get it right. Even after I read your post it took me a while to really "get it". I'll change your scoring and update your winnings. All and all that was a nice wager you made with limited combinations available, Virginia Derby excluded. Nicely played. PS..................scoring "Grand Slams" are even worse and one thing is for sure, I'm not afraid to ask for help!

Thanks for making the change. The tracks have a great advantage - their computers are programmed to calculate payoffs like those; doing it by hand is no fun.

In a way it is fortunate that I didn't hit the Virginia Derby as well - there would have been a boatload of consos on that ticket. It took me a long time to recognize that any time you hit a pick 6 using multiple horses on your ticket, you will also have a large number of combinations in which you have hit 5 out of 6. One can see this more clearly if instead of 1 ticket with 96 possible combinations (2 x 2 x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2) you can visualize 96 different tickets, each of which has one attempt at a pick 6. Of those 96 tickets, one will have all 6 correct and a large number will have 5 out of 6. I don't recommend that anyone actually try this on paper.:)


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