The 'what are these horses doing in the race' horses finished a long way behind the winner. Even Imawildancrazyguy (sp?) wasn't going to have a say about who was the winner - Harvey Pack would have called him a 'suck-up fourth'. Maybe some trainers will tell their owners - 'he couldn't get close to Tiago in the SA Derby, what makes you think he'll get close to better horses in Kentucky?' for example.
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