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Originally Posted by nomad
I don't use Beyers but I have read his books and have tremendous respect for him.
I'm an old timer. I still use speed ratings & consider variants. When I handicap, the Beyer figures are rarely a consideration. I have noticed they are not far off from the figures I use. They are supposed to figure track pars for you. They don't. If they were so good, they would give you a winner more than 1/3 of the time, which is what they claim. Morning line favorite also gives you 1/3 winners. You can't make money like that.
Bottom line for me is that the Beyers are throw outs 2/3 of the time, just like morning lines.
Does that make sense?
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Where has Beyer Associates ever claimed that the figures 'give you a winner' a third of the time or more?
Figures are a tool to provide at a glance the comparative speed of horses at different tracks, at different distances. Period. How you utilize them in your capping is your business. Hell, Beyer himself politely argued with me last week on ATR when I said there are patterns I can gleen from his figures to project performance.