[quote=Rupert Pupkin]
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Rupert, you claimed the PATRIOT Act was written by Congress, which is wasn't. In addition, the Constitution does not contain an "emergency power" or "suspension" clause other than the clause allowing limited suspension of habeas corpus-- BUT-- that power is granted to CONGRESS, not the President (Article 9, Section 1). And it's been the White House, without Congressional knowledge in many cases, who has been orchestrating the secret prisons, the torture, etc. etc. Not that there haven't been cases decided in favor of eroding civil liberties, but the decisions weren't found in the Constitution.
That is not true. The 5th ammendment does make exceptions during "time of war" or "public danger".
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I think that's referring only to people serving in the military, active duty: "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger." I think that's what's meant by "land" or "naval forces"
Here are some choice Ann Coulter comments.
"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." -on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."
"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01
To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC
"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99
"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
"The swing voters -- I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster."
Hey, Rupert! Ann Coulter says you're an idiot! (You said you disliked both parties) Boy, she's articulate, isn't she?
Hmm... but now I think I know who BB really is! Please, BB, gain some weight already-- you're looking awfully scary on TV these days...
I just cited Chris Matthews because he is one of the talking pundits and "Chris Matthews" sounds funny next to "dildo." My husband suggested I use "rubber duck" which is also funny. Yes, I did know he worked in the Carter Administration. And I find it ironic that he calls his show "Hardball" since I rarely see him actually play hardball on it. (that's him, right?) I can't stand his laugh-- like nails on a blackboard for me.
Yes, Rather put up sloppy reporting and it cost him his job. In the wake of all the attention given the same summer to the "Swift Boat" nonsense by legitimate media, including CBS, no one having been fired as a result of that, I hardly find Rather getting humiliated out of his job a sign of liberal bias. If anything, the opposite.
My issue with Colmes has nothing to do with how liberal he might or might not be, it's just think he's a crummy commentator. But explain to me how having a conservative democrat paired with a radical right-winger is "fair and balanced"? Wouldn't it be more balanced to have a left-wing nut to balance out Hannity's right-wing nuttiness? Just asking.
The Dixie Chicks song "Not Ready to Make Nice" includes references to death threats they got after their comment about Bush in 2003. Does that mean all Bushies are violent wack-jobs? No, any more than one friend of yours who hates Bill O'Reilly and says stupid things is an indicator of all liberals.
And I remember Richard Gere getting shouted down when he pleaded for tolerance during the concert for 9/11 (what; he's a Buddhist; what did they think he would say?). Shouting down things you don't want to hear goes both ways-- I hardly think that's limited to liberals. Bad and rude behavior, whoever does it.
As always, thanks for your response!
