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Originally Posted by gales0678
here is what i am saying
todd is the best trainer in the country over the last 10 yrs that is a fact - he wins the most $ , wins the most races , wins the most training titles
he gets bashed on here for not doing it eneough in tc races and on bc day - fairly so , he has underperformed on those days
people on here believe that ramon is the best jockey in the country ,
shouldn't the best jock in the county be better than 1 for 38 on the big days?
why is ok for todd to be bashed for being 1 for 70 or whatever in the tc and 3 for whatever in the bc and ramon's record can't be bashed - i don't get it matt
both ramon and todd have a long way to go in their careers before the finals numbers are done - why not let it play out and see what happens , mabye they will both end up with multiple tc wins and multiple bc wins
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You like baseball analogies, here's one. Pletcher is like the Yankees (Brian Cashman). He's considered one of the best trainers in the game. He has all this high priced talent every year and unless he wins a couple of the huge races, then some people think he has been a dissapointment. There have been times when Pletcher has had 20% of the derby field and still hasn't hit the board. He probably deserves some of the grief he gets.
As far as Ramon goes, you see the list of horses he ridden. It seems like he's done very well with some not so live horses. He's coming into his own and you would think that he will soon be (if he's not already) considered in that top crop of jockeys that trainers fight for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he's on the verge of exploding. And the numbers you bring up are unfair and unjust and don't tell the real story.