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Old 10-16-2006, 03:28 PM
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I think being able to isolate any horse (as the winner of a race) is the important thing.

1)Hardest thing to do, is to overcome the infatuation with getting a big price on the win end.This is especially true in these stakes races that Pletcher is entered in.It is also especially true on the West Coast with many of the spots Mullins(and many times O'neil) has his horses in.You're at a huge disadvantage when you try to beat these people on the win end.You need to just admit that some people's horses aren't gunna get tired (no matter the trip, or your cap strategies.) Hard to beat horses when you run up alongside them,and they then proceed to run to the wire as if the race just started.You can't compete with the level of energy that some trainers are able to fill their horses with(as a wagerer, it really is not incredibly important to know how they get that energy into a horse,but it is important to avoid a fight you can't win.)

2)The 2nd hardest thing to do is to stop betting short or moderately -priced horses to win.I think this is the #1 thing people do wrong when they gamble on horses(bet heavy to win on horses of moderate or low price.)In a game where the combatants often get bad trips,bleed(or palate displaced )or disqualified,the last thing you want to do is wager a lot of money that one particular horse will accomplish something you want done. The natural human tendency is to bet a lot of money that one horse can do what you want it to do.To a lesser degree,I did this for quite a few years.I saw friends betting $300-$500 to win/place on one of the top 3 or 4 favorites in a race.Win betting is attractive to people because it does give you the best chance to cash a ticket(avoid losing.)The thing people are often in denial about is that you must not lose,or you will be very far in the hole(because it takes a large amount to make a large amount.)Because it takes so much cash to make money win betting( on low or moderately priced horses,)what do people do when they lose by win betting low priced horses? They need to then start making that money back.They have less money to now do that with.They don't look at races objectively(they start trying to hunt down price horses.)These horses I spoke of above(trained by the Pletchers,and Mullins of the world) often have to have something go very wrong for them to fail to win.So,your probably going to have win bets on horses that are running for 2nd or 3rd money.So,I actually think win betting is the crack cocaine of the horse wagering options.A lot of short burst pleasure that involves a high degree of risk of getting deep in the hole.What seems by most to be the most conservative bet in racing,is actually the bet that gets many people in deep financial holes.Again,the reason for that, is you're usually going to be betting quite a bit of money(if you want to make a decent amount,)and if you fail a few times,you'll be behind very quickly. Of course,the other alternative is to bet a smaller amount on price horses.The problem with this is that these supertrainers often have their foot on your neck,and you have no shot at bringing in a price(but regardless you wildly fish.)So,my suggestion is to avoid betting one horse to do something.Bet on atleast 2 things to happen.This requires less money,and allows you to be more objective in deciding who is going to win a race.Don't get caught up in "having to make money" on a 5/2 shot.Use it in the 1 hole of some less cash-demanding wager.I say all this.. if you don't have 1st hand information from a barn.Obviously that would make win betting on low priced horses a little better option.I would still avoid win betting low priced horses with large sums of money (because of the disqualifications,bleeding,displaced palates,bad trips etc.)
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