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Originally Posted by slotdirt

The Lions have won a single playoff game since 1957. That's the entire Saints existence plus another decade. The Lions haven't had a single quarterback make the Pro Bowl since 1971. Heck, the Lions haven't even made the playoffs since 1999 - The Lions had arguably the best running back in NFL history and managed winning more than 10 games but once - in Barry Sanders third season. So yeah, there are franchises more moribund than the Saints, they just don't put bags on their heads or rip off Cincinnati Bengals fan slogans. And don't get me started on the Cardinals: their utterly pathetic post-Chicago franchise history (six playoff appearances since 1948!!!!) makes the Saints look like the 60's Green Bay Packers. Just because you may have grown up when the Saints stunk, doesn't mean they have the historically awful, well, history of a few other franchises.

And what's with your hard-on for the Saints anyway? Do you want to rub Drew Brees' cute little Gorbachev birthmark or something? Either you're stubborn or you've not bothered to actually take a look at the Saints record since circa 1987, where they've been, relatively speaking, a modestly successful franchise.

Bill Munson or Greg Landry?