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Old 05-22-2014, 06:19 PM
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... and please... if I'm wrong and there is any other reason besides greed can someone please explain it to me?

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Suffolk Downs - Saturday, May 24, 2014
Race 8 - Post Time - 4:10 PM Second Half of Late Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta (10-cent min)
Suffolk Downs CLAIMING $4,000

Purse $9,000. For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Not Won A Race Since November 24. Three Year Olds, 118 Lbs.; Older, 124 Lbs. Claiming Price $4,000. Five And One Half Furlongs.

1 1 Faneuil Wildcat (FL) 5/G L $4,000 E Barbaran 124 J Lorenz 9/2
2 2 Vengeful Pride (KY) 5/G L $4,000 J S Vail 124 G A Saccardo 8/1
3 3 Soldier Mountain (KY) 4/G L $4,000 V Bush 124 J T Botty 5/2
4 4 Alls Im Saying (KY) 4/R L $4,000 F Reyes 124 F G Siravo 10/1
5 5 Half a Note (KY) 10/G L $4,000 J De La Cruz 1195 G C Maroun 6/1
6 6 Marco Be Good (ON) 12/G L $4,000 L A Garcia 124 P L Bosley 20/1
7 7 This Ones for Nina (KY) 4/C L $4,000 P Tomas 124 M Clarke 12/1
8 8 Special Song (FL) 6/G L $4,000 D D Amiss 124 W Downing 2/1

... and this was his last start so the whole "but he's still competitive for an old man" thing doesn't apply.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=6

His last two wins (84 starts) were in 2011 and 2009.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:32 PM
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No reason for that what-so-ever. If I were rich, I would have a pasture full of horses like him.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:44 PM
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There really should be an age limit on horses. People writing the condition books should keep that in mind.
12 years old is really asking too much of a racehorse to be competitive.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:51 PM
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Here's Charles FB page. https://www.facebook.com/cpcannon1733?fref=ts

(I sent him a message 0= : >)
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:25 AM
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Sok Sok.........wow odd to see that name in the results for a 5k claiming race. Kinda sad.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:42 AM
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Sok Sok.........wow odd to see that name in the results for a 5k claiming race. Kinda sad.
Yeah, I saw that too.. Shame.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:09 PM
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... and please... if I'm wrong and there is any other reason besides greed can someone please explain it to me?

Thanks.

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Suffolk Downs - Saturday, May 24, 2014
Race 8 - Post Time - 4:10 PM Second Half of Late Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta (10-cent min)
Suffolk Downs CLAIMING $4,000

Purse $9,000. For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Not Won A Race Since November 24. Three Year Olds, 118 Lbs.; Older, 124 Lbs. Claiming Price $4,000. Five And One Half Furlongs.

1 1 Faneuil Wildcat (FL) 5/G L $4,000 E Barbaran 124 J Lorenz 9/2
2 2 Vengeful Pride (KY) 5/G L $4,000 J S Vail 124 G A Saccardo 8/1
3 3 Soldier Mountain (KY) 4/G L $4,000 V Bush 124 J T Botty 5/2
4 4 Alls Im Saying (KY) 4/R L $4,000 F Reyes 124 F G Siravo 10/1
5 5 Half a Note (KY) 10/G L $4,000 J De La Cruz 1195 G C Maroun 6/1
6 6 Marco Be Good (ON) 12/G L $4,000 L A Garcia 124 P L Bosley 20/1
7 7 This Ones for Nina (KY) 4/C L $4,000 P Tomas 124 M Clarke 12/1
8 8 Special Song (FL) 6/G L $4,000 D D Amiss 124 W Downing 2/1

... and this was his last start so the whole "but he's still competitive for an old man" thing doesn't apply.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=6

His last two wins (84 starts) were in 2011 and 2009.
According to fb posts, he's retired and heading to Old Friends NY.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3196662&type=1
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:31 PM
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According to fb posts, he's retired and heading to Old Friends NY.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3196662&type=1
Just saw pics go up on FB. Poor horse earned a break a long time ago. I just hope nobody tries to give him a 2nd career as a polo pony. With a name like that, you'd never hear the end of the jokes.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:35 PM
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This is indeed fantastic news
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:23 PM
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According to fb posts, he's retired and heading to Old Friends NY.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3196662&type=1
What wonderful news.
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:40 PM
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... and please... if I'm wrong and there is any other reason besides greed can someone please explain it to me?

Thanks.

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Suffolk Downs - Saturday, May 24, 2014
Race 8 - Post Time - 4:10 PM Second Half of Late Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta (10-cent min)
Suffolk Downs CLAIMING $4,000

Purse $9,000. For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Not Won A Race Since November 24. Three Year Olds, 118 Lbs.; Older, 124 Lbs. Claiming Price $4,000. Five And One Half Furlongs.

1 1 Faneuil Wildcat (FL) 5/G L $4,000 E Barbaran 124 J Lorenz 9/2
2 2 Vengeful Pride (KY) 5/G L $4,000 J S Vail 124 G A Saccardo 8/1
3 3 Soldier Mountain (KY) 4/G L $4,000 V Bush 124 J T Botty 5/2
4 4 Alls Im Saying (KY) 4/R L $4,000 F Reyes 124 F G Siravo 10/1
5 5 Half a Note (KY) 10/G L $4,000 J De La Cruz 1195 G C Maroun 6/1
6 6 Marco Be Good (ON) 12/G L $4,000 L A Garcia 124 P L Bosley 20/1
7 7 This Ones for Nina (KY) 4/C L $4,000 P Tomas 124 M Clarke 12/1
8 8 Special Song (FL) 6/G L $4,000 D D Amiss 124 W Downing 2/1

... and this was his last start so the whole "but he's still competitive for an old man" thing doesn't apply.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=6

His last two wins (84 starts) were in 2011 and 2009.
but....it can't be greed when the purse is so small...can it? wouldn't it be cheaper not to keep the horse in training?
well..maybe not from the trainers point of view!
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:55 PM
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but....it can't be greed when the purse is so small...can it? wouldn't it be cheaper not to keep the horse in training?
well..maybe not from the trainers point of view!
I see your point. I don't know... to me, when I first saw this, I thought oh okay they want to be paid to be rid of him.

Very happy he gets to go somewhere good now (and I wish the same for Workin' for Hops. He's not in the same boat as this guy but wow... a 5k claimer on Friday isn't exactly where I thought he'd end up).

Hate seeing them sink...
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:29 PM
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I see your point. I don't know... to me, when I first saw this, I thought oh okay they want to be paid to be rid of him.

Very happy he gets to go somewhere good now (and I wish the same for Workin' for Hops. He's not in the same boat as this guy but wow... a 5k claimer on Friday isn't exactly where I thought he'd end up).

Hate seeing them sink...
and it could be they were hoping to get a claim for him. i remember the horse a few years ago bought by a dt poster after he was hurt. they still wanted some dough, even tho they wanted rid of the horse.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:51 AM
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and it could be they were hoping to get a claim for him. i remember the horse a few years ago bought by a dt poster after he was hurt. they still wanted some dough, even tho they wanted rid of the horse.
She wasn't hurt, she ran worse than 4th so many times she couldn't race at Mountaineer Park anymore. Hoping something good happens for Workin For Hops after today's race.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:41 AM
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She wasn't hurt, she ran worse than 4th so many times she couldn't race at Mountaineer Park anymore. Hoping something good happens for Workin For Hops after today's race.
i'm sorry, i'm not sure what you're talking about? edit--you guys rescued a horse, right?

the horse i'm talking about in regards to a dter getting wasn't a filly, wasn't at mountaineer. scavs helped out with the transaction, i think the horse was in the midwest. maybe he can clarify.
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:00 AM
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i'm sorry, i'm not sure what you're talking about? edit--you guys rescued a horse, right?

the horse i'm talking about in regards to a dter getting wasn't a filly, wasn't at mountaineer. scavs helped out with the transaction, i think the horse was in the midwest. maybe he can clarify.
You mean Nopie (Derby Cat), right?
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:05 AM
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You mean Nopie (Derby Cat), right?
Awww.. Nopie.. I had forgotten about him.. Hope he is still around having a wonderful life.
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i'm sorry, i'm not sure what you're talking about? edit--you guys rescued a horse, right?

the horse i'm talking about in regards to a dter getting wasn't a filly, wasn't at mountaineer. scavs helped out with the transaction, i think the horse was in the midwest. maybe he can clarify.
Yeah sorry, it was the $ part that made me think of her.
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You mean Nopie (Derby Cat), right?
that's the one!

i could envision the horse, remembered the pics, etc, but couldn't drag the name out of my brain to save my life.
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You mean Nopie (Derby Cat), right?
Yesss how is ol' Nopie? Long time no hear about.
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