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Old 03-27-2007, 11:28 AM
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I seldom agree with anything this guy says but really like the way he says it.
Imo, one of the best Press Secretarys in recent memory...Pray he overcomes his recent battle with cancer..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17813246/
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:48 AM
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I find his contortions around press questions pretty amusing, myself, as I don't think he could give a straight answer if his life depended on it, but then, look at the Administration he's shilling for. Nevertheless, this is terrible news, and I hope for the best outcome for him, his wife, and their three little kids. May he finish out Bush's term and have many more years back at the American TASS, Fox News.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:41 PM
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depends on how involved in the liver, and i understand it's spread to other areas besides.
doesn't sound good, but he is planning to fight this as hard as he can--i heard stage four mentioned. he's determined, and i wish him well--regardless of who he works for!

it's a shame. i have only ever heard good things about tony snow, hope that he gets thru this for his familys sake as well as his own.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:44 PM
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I seldom agree with anything this guy says but really like the way he says it.
Imo, one of the best Press Secretarys in recent memory...Pray he overcomes his recent battle with cancer..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17813246/
Completely agree. He is a righty, but he is clearer and more concise than the usual empty suits they trot out there. Ari Fleischer made my skin crawl. He actually had trouble lying. Hello? That's in the job description no matter who the president is.
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Completely agree. He is a righty, but he is clearer and more concise than the usual empty suits they trot out there. Ari Fleischer made my skin crawl. He actually had trouble lying. Hello? That's in the job description no matter who the president is.

Ari was a prince compared to that last guy, whatisname McLellan...The press corps slapped him around like red-headed step child.....Way in over his head..
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I actually heard it was attached to his liver and not in it. I don't know how much of a diffrence it makes if its stage four, but that is good news either way.
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Since I see people speculating I figured I'd post this for you....

Duke's staging systems for colorectal cancer

TNM MAC* Duke's

Stage 0 Tis N0 M0 -
Stage I T1 N0 M0 A A
T2 N0 M0 B1 A
Stage IIA T3 N0 M0 B2 B
IIB T4 N0 M0 B3
Stage IIIA T1-2 N1 M0 C1 C
IIIB T3-4 N1 M0 C2/3
IIIC any T N2 M0 C1/2/3
Stage IV any T any N M1 D - Mr Snow

AJCC: American Joint Committee on cancer.
* Mucosal; above muscularis propria, no involvement of lymph nodes.
B1 Into musclaris propria but above pericolic fat, no involvement of lymph nodes.
B2 Into pericolic or perirectal fat, no involvement of lymph nodes.
C1 Same penetration as B1 with nodal metastases.
C2 Same penetration as B2 with nodal metastases.
D Distant metastases Mr Snow

Colon cancer — Five-year survival rates in a contemporary series of over 119,000 patients treated between 1991 and 2000 stratified according to the most recent modification of the TNM staging system were as follows:

Stage I (T1-2N0)— 93 percent
Stage IIA (T3N0) — 85 percent
Stage IIB (T4N0) — 72 percent
Stage IIIA (T1-2 N1)— 83 percent
Stage IIIB (T3-4 N1) — 64 percent
Stage IIIC (N2) — 44 percent

Stage IV — 8 percent Mr Snow
Adherent or invading the liver capsule (inside it) would place him here

As you can see it isn't impossible but the odds are certainly stacked against him. Without knowing what treatment he has had and failed it's hard to be more encouraging but attitude is everything and if ever there was a time to focus on a minimally stressful environment and life this would be it. I am hoping he doesn't try to come back to work and gives the "Fab" or targeted antibody meds below a try. Truly the future of cancer therapy. I have seen incredible successes in some cases.

Targeted therapies — Three other drugs that are active in metastatic colorectal cancer, called bevacizumab (Avastin®), cetuximab (Erbitux®), and panitumumab (Vectibix®) work by a different mechanism. All three are referred to as "targeted chemotherapy agents" since they are antibodies (a type of protein) that work to inhibit a protein that is important for the growth and/or survival of colon cancer cells:

Avastin binds a protein called vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF). VEGF is involved in the development of a blood supply within a growing cancer; this blood supply is essential for the tumor to grow and spread. Avastin also enhance the antitumor effect of other chemotherapy drugs.
Erbitux targets a different protein, the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR), which is found in approximately 80 percent of colorectal cancers. Erbitux is effective even if EGFR is not detected within a person's tumor, possibly because the test is not sensitive in detecting a small number of receptors.
Vectibix also targets the EGFR, but in a different way than Erbitux


If anyone wants to know more about this stuff let me know

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Old 03-29-2007, 09:38 AM
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DrD: Very Sobering stats you put up. Didn't think it was that advanced in Tonys' case. Clearly, he needs a miracle to see his kids grow up. Thanks for the info.
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