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Old 04-17-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Keeneland Wed. (4/18)

Little early, but I spent some time with KEE PP's last night.

In early part of card I really liked #1 Just for Kicks in the 2nd. Instead of win bet on 5/2 shot, I am looking to take a stab at early pk4.

1 / 2,3,5 / 4,6,10 / 1,4,5,7,8
$45

Late pk4

1,4,6,10 / 1,2,6,7, 8 / 1,5 / 5,8
$80

Probably too big of a ticket, but I got cheap on Sun. And it cost me the pk4....

Good Luck!

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Old 04-17-2007, 12:08 PM
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with Keeneland fever setting in, i've also been doing early handicapping.

first pick four

race 2
pp 7 Fabulosity ml 10/1 – surprise in store?
pp 1 Just For Kicks ml 5/2
pp 2 Bolshoi Ballet ml 5/1
pp 4 Reito Peito ml 9/2

race 3
pp 2 Quietly Mine ml 5/2 - ready to roll
pp 3 Weather Warning ml 8/5

race 4 race is loaded with speed, should set-up up for off the pace score
pp 4 Tactical Candy ml 5/1 - solid sprinting form, should pop on the turnback, go-go
pp 10 Come On Cathy Ann ml 12/1 – right style right jock
pp 6 Slew Proud ml 6/1 – maybe dangerous if takes to poly

race 5
pp 5 Simply Divine ml 3/1 – may be hard to deny
pp 7 Cute Cakes ml 6/1
pp 8 Unforgotten ml 8/1
pp 4 Im Classic Quality ml 7/2


I like the 1 in the second a lot, so I will press on it. However I do think that the 7 and 2 have upset capability. So I will also use them.

I think the 3rd goes through either the 2 or the 3 and I can’t separate them.

In the fourth I think its either the 4 or 10.

In the fifth I’ll go wider giving preference to the horses with good previous starts, 5 and 8, but also using 4 and 7.

First PK4 - 1 2 7// 2 3// 4 10// 5 8 4 7
48 combinations

Still working on the second PK which looks tougher.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:57 PM
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seem like you have it covered...good luck..
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:15 PM
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with Keeneland fever setting in, i've also been doing early handicapping.

first pick four

race 2
pp 7 Fabulosity ml 10/1 – surprise in store?
pp 1 Just For Kicks ml 5/2
pp 2 Bolshoi Ballet ml 5/1
pp 4 Reito Peito ml 9/2

race 3
pp 2 Quietly Mine ml 5/2 - ready to roll
pp 3 Weather Warning ml 8/5

race 4 race is loaded with speed, should set-up up for off the pace score
pp 4 Tactical Candy ml 5/1 - solid sprinting form, should pop on the turnback, go-go
pp 10 Come On Cathy Ann ml 12/1 – right style right jock
pp 6 Slew Proud ml 6/1 – maybe dangerous if takes to poly

race 5
pp 5 Simply Divine ml 3/1 – may be hard to deny
pp 7 Cute Cakes ml 6/1
pp 8 Unforgotten ml 8/1
pp 4 Im Classic Quality ml 7/2


I like the 1 in the second a lot, so I will press on it. However I do think that the 7 and 2 have upset capability. So I will also use them.

I think the 3rd goes through either the 2 or the 3 and I can’t separate them.

In the fourth I think its either the 4 or 10.

In the fifth I’ll go wider giving preference to the horses with good previous starts, 5 and 8, but also using 4 and 7.

First PK4 - 1 2 7// 2 3// 4 10// 5 8 4 7
48 combinations

Still working on the second PK which looks tougher.
aj will be taking over for me i have every confidence in his ability...go gettum..hooves.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:52 PM
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aj will be taking over for me i have every confidence in his ability...go gettum..hooves.

Hooves, You certainly cleaned up in the first half at KEE. Thanks for that. Hopefully you will still throw us some bones when those big bombs catch your eye...

Has Steve given AJ a catchy nickname yet? Maybe the "Lexington Lunatic"...
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:47 PM
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KEE Late PK 4

Race 6: 10 Bernie White Shoes
Race 7: 1 Dubai Gold, 6 Kingship, 7 Karelin, 9 Mystic Ruler
Race 8: 1 Pyrmid Love, 2 Bootery, 5 Asi Siempre
Race 9: 5 Lordly, 11 Southern Flu

$24 dollas....make you holla!!!!
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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aj will be taking over for me i have every confidence in his ability...go gettum..hooves.
thank hooves, no pressure right? you're a tough act to follow.

if you see anything juicy i missed hollar.

yeah pmac, like the idea for the name.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Little early, but I spent some time with KEE PP's last night.

In early part of card I really liked #1 Just for Kicks in the 2nd. Instead of win bet on 5/2 shot, I am looking to take a stab at early pk4.

1 / 2,3,5 / 4,6,10 / 1,4,5,7,8
$45

Late pk4 (in progress)

1,6,9,10 / 1,2,6,8 / 1,5 / 5,8
$64

Any thoughts on the card?

Good Luck!
In Pmac we trust! I'm heading down to GLD tomorrow morning and am gonna duplicate your early PK4 and see what happens.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:27 PM
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I like 2 horses at Keeneland tomorrow. In the 6th #4 Five Star Thief. In the 7th I have been waiting for #7 Karelian to comeback since last summer. This is a very talented animal that has shown he can run big off layoffs and has handled the Keeneland turf well. He does find a tough group to meet off the layoff, but has been training very well up to this race. Loses Castellano to the probable favorite and while I'm not crazy with Jara I have to make a bet on this horse tomorrow. good luck.
good luck DH..I have seen him breeze a few time this month and he sure looks ready to fire big off the bench. I also think Dubai Gold will run big at nice odds for Frankel/Lep
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:37 PM
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Okay, got the full card now, and made some changes from posts earlier in the day. Will try two pick fours. good luck...
###updated for scratches###

race 1 babies
pp 4 Wonderful Luck ml 5/1 won 13.20
pp 8 Ride Em Cowgirl ml 5/1 – experience edge
pp 3 Little Springer ml 4/1
pp 5 Predate

race 2
pp 2 Bolshoi Ballet ml 5/1
pp 7 Fabulosity ml 10/1 – back with right connections
pp 4 Reito Peito ml 9/2
pp 1 Just For Kicks ml 5/2 – no Julien, no works?

Early pk four 1 2 4 7//2 3 //4 10//2 4 5 7 8 (80x50cents= $40) busted!

race 3
pp 2 Quietly Mine ml 5/2 - ready to roll 2nd
pp 3 Weather Warning ml 8/5 3rd
pp 4 Native Ruler ml 6/1 4th
pp 5 Stormin Baghdad...won ..captain obvious super $89

race 4 race is loaded with speed, should set-up up for off the pace score
pp 4 Tactical Candy ml 5/1 - solid, should pop on the turnback, go-go 4th
pp 10 Come On Cathy Ann ml 12/1 – right style right jock 2nd
pp 6 Slew Proud ml 6/1 – maybe dangerous if takes to poly
pp 5 Tak Wild ml 20/1 - 3rd $11.80 show!

race 5
pp 5 Simply Divine ml 3/1 – may be hard to deny won, another captain obvious super $260
pp 7 Cute Cakes ml 6/1 4th
pp 8 Unforgotten ml 8/1 3rd
pp 4 Im Classic Quality ml 7/2 2nd
pp 2 Miss O. Four ml 20/1

race 6
pp 6 No Fault ml 15/1 – break and switch to poly get it done 2ND! almost won $14.4 pl
pp 2 Forest Phantom ml 8/1 3rd
pp 1 Ever a Friend ml 8/1 4th
pp 10 Bernie White Shoes ml 3/1
pp 4 Five Star Thief

PK4 1 2 4 6 10//6//1 5// 5 6 8 10 11 (50x50cents=$25) busted!
race 7
pp 6 Kinship ml 7/2 – this horse is good
pp 8 Defer ml 4/1 - won
pp 2 Outperformance ml 3/1
pp 7 Karelian ml 8/1


race 8 no surprises
pp 5 Asi Siempre ml 7/5 – why no Julien? won
pp 1 Pyramid Love ml 4/1 - 2nd
pp 4 Soul Search ml 4/1 4th
pp 6 Warrior Girl ml 15/1 3rd

race 9
pp 8 Flawless Treasure ml 7/2
pp 11 Southern Flu ml 8/1
pp 6 Ready to Goes ml 15/1
pp 5 Lordly ml 5/1
pp 10 Bless You ml 8/1

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Pick 4 ......the late one!!!





Race 6 1,2,3,4

Race 7 6,8

Race 8 1,5,6,7

Race 9 2,5,6,9,11 good luck everyone
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:51 AM
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Race 6

10$WP 8 (saalb)
20$S 8
5$ ex box 4,8

Takin a stab at the Oaklawn shipper..Hopin for the oaklawn/poly switch to work here like Hard Spun...Wishful thinking..
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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race 6
pp 6 No Fault ml 15/1 – break and switch to poly get it done 2ND! almost won $14.4 pl
pp 2 Forest Phantom ml 8/1 3rd
pp 1 Ever a Friend ml 8/1 4th
pp 10 Bernie White Shoes ml 3/1
pp 4 Five Star Thief
well that helped me, caught this one by playing a wide dime super ticket with the 6 first and second. He damn near won.! made up for a slow start on this card. super was ($966 for 10 cents)
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:18 PM
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well that helped me, caught this one by playing a wide dime super ticket with the 6 first and second. He damn near won.! made up for a slow start on this card. super was ($966 for 10 cents)
Very nice Jim.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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GD!!! I had singled the #7 in my early PK4 play, and she gets cut off twice down the lane!! Not a great ride, and I am not sure if she was going to get the winner, but it would have been close. Damn...that would have been a nice hit to start the PK4!

No action taken! That is ridiculus! The 8 should have come down!
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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GD!!! I had singled the #7 in my early PK4 play, and she gets cut off twice down the lane!! Not a great ride, and I am not sure if she was going to get the winner, but it would have been close. Damn...that would have been a nice hit to start the PK4!
The seven was finished and would not have won. I had the seven so I was hoping for him to stay on.

If they leave this eight up I'm going to go ballistic!
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:54 PM
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The seven was finished and would not have won. I had the seven so I was hoping for him to stay on.

If they leave this eight up I'm going to go ballistic!
How can you say she was finished? No way, she was digging in and even got back into it a bit. No way was she going to catch the 1 or keep up, but the 8 interferred horribly. She got beat on a bob, by a nose for 3rd. She wouldn't have won, but 2nd was possible, and 3rd was easily in reach.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:58 PM
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How can you say she was finished? No way, she was digging in and even got back into it a bit. No way was she going to catch the 1 or keep up, but the 8 interferred horribly. She got beat on a bob, by a nose for 3rd. She wouldn't have won, but 2nd was possible, and 3rd was easily in reach.
She was finished in terms of the win, that's all I meant. the interference which was real, did not cost the seven the win or second place.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:01 PM
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She was finished in terms of the win, that's all I meant. the interference which was real, did not cost the seven the win or second place.

Agreed.

I also agree with why even post the inquiry sign when you have no intention of using it. There was obviously a reason to take that horse down. Incredible.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:55 PM
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The seven was finished and would not have won. I had the seven so I was hoping for him to stay on.

If they leave this eight up I'm going to go ballistic!
unbelievable! There is no point in using inquiries or stewards at Kenneland
there is never an objection and nothing gets taken down.

that horse was all over the track and interferred with half the field BS!!!!
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