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05-06-2007, 08:04 AM
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Pletcher could have won the Derby . . .
Rags to Riches. Ran a better final time in bad track conditions. Tack on a :12 clip to her final and she ran faster than Street Sense. She was really motoring past the wire in the Oaks.
Pletcher might have had his Derby. 
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05-06-2007, 08:21 AM
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I really don't think so, but we have no way of knowing.
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05-06-2007, 10:00 AM
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She couldn't have possibly done worse than his colts.
I try not to jump on the "greatest" bandwagon -- but Rags looks scary good. She might be the measure of some of the game's greatest fillies. That was a devastating performance on a bad track.
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05-06-2007, 10:21 AM
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Pletcher made the right call on this one, and was rewarded with a smashing victory in the Oaks. It was the right choice because it gave her the chance to fully dominate her own kind instead of chasing the derby dream.
I think she could have run a very respectable race in the derby, but I doubt if she could have won it. Rags is in an elite group of fillies. The sky is the limit for this girl.
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#6
05-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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Even with the bonehead ride by Albarado Curlin was third. Might have won the damn thing with a different jockey.
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05-06-2007, 11:09 AM
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05-06-2007, 11:16 AM
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06-09-2007, 07:07 PM
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06-09-2007, 07:21 PM
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eh, woulda coulda shoulda.
she won a classic...well, two. she won a filly classic with the oaks. i want to see her vs the guys again. bring on the travers. she's the best 3 yo in pletchers barn, don't waste our time with those pretenders todd!! run the filly again!
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06-09-2007, 07:41 PM
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She won the Kentucky Oaks and the Belmont Stakes, really, how much better can it get without ruining the fairy tale?
The other two triple crown races were great in their own right, Curlin closing to nose out Street Sense. SS and Borel ridin' rail to win the Derby. Great last 5 weeks.
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06-09-2007, 07:48 PM
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06-09-2007, 08:00 PM
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Today IS special. Winning any grade one is special and winning a classic race or a BC race is even more special than that. But there is only one Derby. I think people dream more about winning the Derby than the Belmont. There's nothing wrong with winning the Oaks and the Belmont. Nothing at all. But how do u think Pletcher would feel if, when he's ready to retire, he's never won a Derby (I think he will win a few though) and he has look back and know that he didn't even take a chance with the best 3yo he's had? That would hurt.
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06-09-2007, 08:03 PM
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i know there are hall of fame trainers who never won any classic...he's in rarified air right now, especially considering he, like lukas, won a classic with a filly.
i said back when they first started talking belmont that they did right to pass the derby, that 20-horse fiasco is not the place to be.
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06-09-2007, 08:11 PM
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05-06-2007, 10:51 AM
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Running her in the Derby would have been the worst thing to do.
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05-06-2007, 10:54 AM
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She should run in the Belmont. She is better than Jazil and her sire is a Belmont winner.
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