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Old 05-15-2007, 09:38 AM
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As reported by Chuck at Churchill.. Derby winner drilled 5f in a little over 1:00.0 and looked great. Last 1/8th in under :12 and gallop out in :24+ (via Neil Howard's stopwatch).. Hasn't lost any weight according to Chuck, and appears to be maintaining form going into Saturday..

And now the DRF report: http://www.drf.com/news/article/84916.html
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:44 AM
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More importantly, what did Calvin Borel have for breakfast and how are Carl Nafzger's bowels?
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:46 AM
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More importantly, what did Calvin Borel have for breakfast and how are Carl Nafzger's bowels?
This is what we get when you wake up mornings before 10:30am...

(But good questions and I'll check on the breakfast/bowel issues..)
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:50 AM
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Please let it be Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:59 AM
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Please let it be Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

no no no. Wheaties!
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no no no. Wheaties!
Both of you are nuts... Cocoa Puffs are the way to go!
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Both of you are nuts... Cocoa Puffs are the way to go!
Wheaties is the breakfast of champions!

But I like Boo Berry cereal. It is my fave!
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:18 AM
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If anyone remembers, Bob Baffert tried to bring Point Given to the Derby fresh with only two preps so he would have enough left to finish off the Triple Crown. It didn't quite work out, at least somewhat due to his foolishly choosing to start from the parking lot instead of the inside. The horse certainly had plenty left to win the last two legs.

Well, it looks like Nafzger and Street Sense pulled off Part A of the Baffert plan.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:25 AM
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If anyone remembers, Bob Baffert tried to bring Point Given to the Derby fresh with only two preps so he would have enough left to finish off the Triple Crown. It didn't quite work out, at least somewhat due to his foolishly choosing to start from the parking lot instead of the inside. The horse certainly had plenty left to win the last two legs.

Well, it looks like Nafzger and Street Sense pulled off Part A of the Baffert plan.

Didn't Monarchos start from post 16, and PG start from post 17? I think PG was a little short because of the two preps and a little too close to the pace... I don't think the post position made much of a difference.
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I would say being parked wide around both turns while near a blistering pace at least somewhat contributed to the defeat. Monarchos and Point Given in no way ran similar races.
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Why does Point Given's ongoing and career-long hoof problem(s) never get brought up in discussions of his great campaign?
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Why does Point Given's ongoing and career-long hoof problem(s) never get brought up in discussions of his great campaign?

Is this grammatically correct?
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Why does Point Given's ongoing and career-long hoof problem(s) never get brought up in discussions of his great campaign?
.....because most fools dont believe in nagging injuries, they always think the trainer is lying.

b.t.w......curlin will win or run 2nd to s.s.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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I would say being parked wide around both turns while near a blistering pace at least somewhat contributed to the defeat. Monarchos and Point Given in no way ran similar races.
Ok, somewhat I suppose... but he was just 3-wide on the first turn.
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Yeah, well Monarchos made the fence by the first turn.

Where exactly was Point Given that the post didn't matter?
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Yeah, well Monarchos made the fence by the first turn.

Where exactly was Point Given that the post didn't matter?
As well as Gary Stevens rode thousands of races the 2001 Derby was not one of his finer performances. It's a shame, though, because he was so much better than everyone else in that crop.

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Old 05-15-2007, 10:59 AM
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As well as Gary Stevens rode thousands of races the 2001 Derby was not one of his finer performances. It's a shame, though, because he was so much better than everyone else in that crop.
Are we talking about Point Given or Gary Stevens here?
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Seeing as how New York stakes seem to average 5 or 6 horses these days, I don't think the Belmont undercard will be anything to write home about.

On an unrelated note, I hope they card that 1 1/2m starter race this year.
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Seeing as how New York stakes seem to average 5 or 6 horses these days, I don't think the Belmont undercard will be anything to write home about.

On an unrelated note, I hope they card that 1 1/2m starter race this year.
Unfortunately, that's not all that uncommon at some other tracks too.(see any west coast track)
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