How do you bet????(long)

[wac]

When im betting i pick my horse and bet win/place usually at 2:1 ratio then i put my horse under some other in an ex. like 2,3,4/1 and do a tri 2,3,4/2,3,4/1 while im generating a decent profit so far this year it drives me crazy when all the horses i pick hit the board and i have the win but lose out on the ex and tri. Is there a better way to attack this? boxing gets kinda expensive but it is frustrating when my horse wins and ex returns $80 or higher and tri sometimes bigger. Any way to better use my top horse??? ANY advice would be greatly appreciated. LIke i said not trying to be greedy but i hate it when i see a race pretty clear and am right and i dont cream the race. I dont play pk 3' or pk 4's b/c im the king of the pick 3 of 4 and have gotten frustrated and no longer play them. i know there are some really really really good players on this board so id appreciate the advice. thanks

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by wac

When im betting i pick my horse and bet win/place usually at 2:1 ratio then i put my horse under some other in an ex. like 2,3,4/1 and do a tri 2,3,4/2,3,4/1 while im generating a decent profit so far this year it drives me crazy when all the horses i pick hit the board and i have the win but lose out on the ex and tri. Is there a better way to attack this? boxing gets kinda expensive but it is frustrating when my horse wins and ex returns $80 or higher and tri sometimes bigger. Any way to better use my top horse??? ANY advice would be greatly appreciated. LIke i said not trying to be greedy but i hate it when i see a race pretty clear and am right and i dont cream the race. I dont play pk 3' or pk 4's b/c im the king of the pick 3 of 4 and have gotten frustrated and no longer play them. i know there are some really really really good players on this board so id appreciate the advice. thanks

Bet it all to WIN!

[ateamstupid]

Stop betting to place if you're backwheeling in exactas. It's a waste of money.

[blackthroatedwind]

Stop betting to place and never wheel ( front or back ).

[unassailable08]

exactly a wheel and do yall hate Boxing exactas and trifectas also.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by unassailable08

exactly a wheel and do yall hate Boxing exactas and trifectas also.

Sometimes I do. But I don't like giving 4 horses the same amount of chance of winning. I think one should be able to narrow the field down to at least two horses that can win the race.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by unassailable08

exactly a wheel and do yall hate Boxing exactas and trifectas also.

I usually only box horses in big fields (10+), but I'll make the occasional exception.

[whodey17]

Good advice from Ateam and BTW. I am an exacta player and when I see the race clearly I make sure to key my horse on top. I like to make sure I am getting double back on the exacta from what I bet. If I am betting a twenty dollar exacta with 1 over 3 horses then my cost is $60. So the minimum exacta payout better be more than $12 ($12 x $10 = $120 twice of $60).

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Stop betting to place and never wheel ( front or back ).

That's the way I see it.

[wac]

Im getting some good ideas here guys but i keep hearing about "wheeling" is that what im doing when i put 2,3,4/1? If you dont do that then how do you bet exactas??and trifectas???

Originally Posted by wac

Im getting some good ideas here guys but i keep hearing about "wheeling" is that what im doing when i put 2,3,4/1? If you dont do that then how do you bet exactas??and trifectas???

That's called backwheeling when you use multiple horses for 1st and a single for second. It works at a decent clip when you're wheeling a horse like Perfect Drift for second, but most of the time not so much.

It's far wiser to wheel a single on top and multiples for second, since it's usually much easier to find a horse that can win, rather than a horse that will run second...like Perfect Drift.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by wac

Im getting some good ideas here guys but i keep hearing about "wheeling" is that what im doing when i put 2,3,4/1? If you dont do that then how do you bet exactas??and trifectas???

that's a part wheel provided there are more than 4 horses. 'wheeling' would be all/1, 1/all

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

that's a part wheel provided there are more than 4 horses. 'wheeling' would be all/1, 1/all

I think that's where the mixup is. I call that full wheeling or wheeling all, and everything else just wheeling. That must be where people are missing each other, because anyone who says they don't wheel at all (including part wheels) is lying.

[wac]

So how do bet when you really really like a horse???? I could really use help here guys/gals. Just win, put that horse in 1 hole in exacta over couple others? One hole in tri over others?? What is the best way to bet when you have one horse picked out and you think you have a pretty good handle on the race??