buehrle

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

now is supposeably and hopefully rumored to be staying put and will be resigned......definately deserves it! also we are not totally dismantling which makes me happy. just need a couple position players and some arms in the pen and well be ready to make a run next year, the starting pitchings already there! LOL i might be the only person who hasnt given up on 07 yet, seems tho that dye will most likely be moved once he heals up

[The Bid]

They need to fire Ozzie

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Playa,how is that Contrares isn't winning at a high clip.That is a very high quality pitcher.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

ozzie doesnt need to go, he did something that no1 had basically done for a 100 years in this city. contreras, well sometimes he has a tendency to tip his pitches, im not sure if thats what hes doing now. dont forget when we won the WS he had a sub par first half and the 2nd half he was unhittable. right now all i see is him leaviing alotta hiss off speed stuff up in the zone

[MaTH716]

I thought their problem was that no one was hitting the ball. I remember Contreras when he was a Yank, his control was awful. He does have lights out stuff when he is on, but when he is off he is awful.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I thought their problem was that no one was hitting the ball. I remember Contreras when he was a Yank, his control was awful. He does have lights out stuff when he is on, but when he is off he is awful.

it was, lol atleast until the last 2 games. were still striking out alot but the bats seemed to have come alive in lovely st pete of all places

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Playa,how is that Contrares isn't winning at a high clip.That is a very high quality pitcher.

He just turned 60

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He just turned 60

He is about 35(unless he lies...never..right?)Well here we go now.Here are the # of runs he has gotten in support in his last 7 losses...............

0
3
3
3
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1
1

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He is about 35(unless he lies...never..right?)Well here we go now.Here are the # of runs he has gotten in support in his last 7 losses...............

0
3
3
3
4
1
1

He sure looks older than 35

[Cannon Shell]

IMO, they should blow up this team. They are getting old and really are not that good. They dont have a single impact position player in his 20's, they have several guys that are in regression and they dont have a great deal of young players that are close to being impact guys. The pitching staff has logged tons of innings especially Buherle, the bullpen has been so-so and the other teams in the central are better than them and in Cleveland and Minnesota's case are signifigantly younger. Dye and Thome both should be moved for prospects though they probably wont bring much at this stage of the season. Of course if the main shopper, Yankees, are out of it by the deadline(which is very possible) the trade market will be a little tighter.
If the rumors about the new contract are true, you have to think that this a shaky move. How many pitchers blow up coming off of high inning seasons and signing big contracts? More than not. Buehrle is a quality pitcher and an innings eater but not the kind of pitcher than I would like to invest $50 mill in.

[Storm Cadet]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IMO, they should blow up this team. They are getting old and really are not that good. They dont have a single impact position player in his 20's, they have several guys that are in regression and they dont have a great deal of young players that are close to being impact guys. The pitching staff has logged tons of innings especially.

Damn...for a minute there I swear you were talking about the Yankees

[satan's twin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IMO, they should blow up this team. They are getting old and really are not that good. They dont have a single impact position player in his 20's, they have several guys that are in regression and they dont have a great deal of young players that are close to being impact guys. The pitching staff has logged tons of innings especially Buherle, the bullpen has been so-so and the other teams in the central are better than them and in Cleveland and Minnesota's case are signifigantly younger. Dye and Thome both should be moved for prospects though they probably wont bring much at this stage of the season. Of course if the main shopper, Yankees, are out of it by the deadline(which is very possible) the trade market will be a little tighter.
If the rumors about the new contract are true, you have to think that this a shaky move. How many pitchers blow up coming off of high inning seasons and signing big contracts? More than not. Buehrle is a quality pitcher and an innings eater but not the kind of pitcher than I would like to invest $50 mill in.

Why is this a shaky move? Buehrle doesn't throw hard enough to jeopardize his arm. He has never had a lick of arm troubles, pitches 200+ innings every year, is 28 years old, is a 1 or 2 starter, is the heart and soul of this team and wants to stay in Chicago. Jerry Reinsdorf is the guy who said you never give a pitcher more than a three year contract, especially a starter. He has made an exception here. At $50 million for four years, Buehrle is a steal for a 1 or a 2. 1's and 2's that pitch 200+ innings simply aren't available unless you lose your mind and break the bank (can you say Barry Zito?). Teams hold onto them because baseball starts and ends with pitching. Even if the White Sox decided to blow up this team, they would still need front line pitching. By signing Buehrle, they keep a very strong starting pitching staff with a crackerjack closer intact. Position players are a dime a dozen in free agency. They can retool quickly with a few position signings and will contend next season.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IMO, they should blow up this team. They are getting old and really are not that good. They dont have a single impact position player in his 20's, they have several guys that are in regression and they dont have a great deal of young players that are close to being impact guys. The pitching staff has logged tons of innings especially Buherle, the bullpen has been so-so and the other teams in the central are better than them and in Cleveland and Minnesota's case are signifigantly younger. Dye and Thome both should be moved for prospects though they probably wont bring much at this stage of the season. Of course if the main shopper, Yankees, are out of it by the deadline(which is very possible) the trade market will be a little tighter.
If the rumors about the new contract are true, you have to think that this a shaky move. How many pitchers blow up coming off of high inning seasons and signing big contracts? More than not. Buehrle is a quality pitcher and an innings eater but not the kind of pitcher than I would like to invest $50 mill in.

how can you call it a shaky move resigining buehrle, its the right move! hes earned the money and as youve noted he will continue to eat up innings and is a low injury risk considering the type of pitcher he is. its also the right move becuz if buehrle wasnt resigned alotta people in this town would be upset and wouldnt show up to the ballpark and would take them along time to return if ever........recall the white flag debacle. buehrle is a competitor, money will not change his ambition and he wants to be here, hes also the ace of the club and the face of the orginization so it makes sense all the way around including in a business sense for reinsdorf