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Old 08-28-2007, 09:37 PM
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While I do not like this horse so I could be bias, I think this horse doesn't win, and possibly doesn't hit the board in this race at Delaware. First off, Delaware has some huge 'jump-ups' and I have little to no trust in the figs produced from there. 2ndly, I would have to think that Corny would be showing up if this horse was going to win, that is 30k out of his pocket. THIRTY GRAND. Now I understand that he is going for the Toga jockey title but is it worth 30k? Scav thinks not. This horse is a pain in the ass to handle and while Javy can get it done. I forsee a very fast pace in this race, horse is already a nut case, in an unfamiliar scene, probably will be too keen early. I will be playing Strike a Deal hard and boxing with Soldier's Dancer, Summer Doldrums, and Buddy's Humor.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:39 PM
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agreed...I like Buddy's Humor.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:56 PM
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agreed...I like Buddy's Humor.
Buddy's Humor ran well at Monmouth, but he got an absolutely perfect setup vis-a-vis the pace. When he kicked it in, though, he was full of run.

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Old 08-28-2007, 10:26 PM
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Why is it 30k out of his pocket? He could easily win 30k at Saratoga on Saturday.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:41 PM
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There's two G1's on Saturday -- The Forego for $250k and The Woodward for $500k. CV has calls in each. Now look at the rest of the card.

Regardless, strategically speaking, the Spa riding title is worth more than $30k, but it is not worth more than a client like Tagg. So, although I didn't talk to Richie DePass about it, I would think that very far in advance -- the moment Delaware became even a longshot of a remote possibility -- Richie was already talking to Barclay. Richie is one of the best and without question is one of the sharpest in the game.

Winning the Spa title can mean more to CV than it does to other jocks. At this point in his career, specifically this year, this is a big notch on his belt is just what he needs and wants people to see. I think this was 100% Richie's call and if he made it, I would say it's the right one. He wouldn't make this call without every base covered and without understanding every single option, alternative, possibility, etc.

I think Richie stays at the Spa, keeps Tagg as a client and gets to ride the horse back if he wants to. And, he takes his best shot at the title.

OTOH -- maybe Richie didn't want to ride this horse at Delaware and set it up this way. These are the nuances that you never know and never find out. It's like playing Texas Hold'em, LOL.

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Old 08-28-2007, 11:11 PM
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Who is he riding in the Forego and Woodward? He will have to win both to get that 30k..

I don't know much about riding titles and how much they are valued but I know that 30k is 30k, and it is 2 minutes, instead of having to win 2-3 races. Maybe he is really live on Saturday and that is why.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:10 AM
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While I do not like this horse so I could be bias, I think this horse doesn't win, and possibly doesn't hit the board in this race at Delaware. First off, Delaware has some huge 'jump-ups' and I have little to no trust in the figs produced from there. 2ndly, I would have to think that Corny would be showing up if this horse was going to win, that is 30k out of his pocket. THIRTY GRAND. Now I understand that he is going for the Toga jockey title but is it worth 30k? Scav thinks not. This horse is a pain in the ass to handle and while Javy can get it done. I forsee a very fast pace in this race, horse is already a nut case, in an unfamiliar scene, probably will be too keen early. I will be playing Strike a Deal hard and boxing with Soldier's Dancer, Summer Doldrums, and Buddy's Humor.


if jerry(seattle) had started this thread would the whole board then bet the horse? LOL
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:44 AM
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Scav, I would suggest waiting for the scratches before deciding on plays!! Based on previous history, there will be MANY!
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