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Old 10-15-2007, 04:33 PM
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looks the race of the season if the 3 big guns go..
Can New Approach follow in Teofilo's footsteps and be the new ray of hope in Bolger's stable.. Can Rio de la Plata reverse form with New Approach from the Curragh after an impressive win in a G1 in France just over a week ago. Can Raven's Pass confirm the promise of his first 3 runs??

A few here think Rio could get much closer to NA with a more positive ride, but the race might be one tough race too many, and he'll need to be at his best here. Can NA keep up his irresitible form. He just doesnt seem to be giving 100% when he is racing which is quite a scary thought.. Raven's Pass looked amazing last time out so I have no doubts he is a G1 horse..

last years race was one of my favourite races of all time, so Im really hoping this lives up to its billing.. It shows just hiw good this race is, is that good horses like Luck Money, Macartney and Dark Angel are double figure odds..

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New Approach (2) , Raven s Pass (11/4) , Rio De La Plata (7/2) , Fast Company (10) , Mccartney (10) , Dark Angel (20) , Luck Money (20) , Moynahan (20) , Hatta Fort (40) , Achilles Of Troy (100) , Greatwallofchina (100) , Great Rumpuscat (150) , Magna Cum Laude (200) , Dubai Meydan (250)
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:46 PM
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Darley Dewhurst Stakes (Group 1)
£250000.00 added, 2yo only, 7f, Class 1
14 runners
Going: Good


314025 Achilles Of Troy (IRE) 23 2 - A P O'Brien -
041011 Dark Angel (IRE) 13 2 - B W Hills 114
3 Dubai Meydan (IRE) 11 2 - Miss Gay Kelleway -
11 Fast Company (IRE) 67 2 - B J Meehan -
61 Great Rumpuscat (USA) 28 2 - A P O'Brien -
0026 Greatwallofchina (USA) 20 2 - A P O'Brien -
51314 Hatta Fort 86 2 - M R Channon 104
131 Luck Money (IRE) 36 2 - P F I Cole 108
260320 Magna Cum Laude (IRE) 17 2 - A P O'Brien 91
3111 McCartney (GER) 42 2 - M Johnston 115
41 Moynahan (USA) 52 2 - P F I Cole -
1111 New Approach (IRE) 34 2 - J S Bolger -
111 Raven's Pass (USA) 56 2 - J H M Gosden 114
31121 Rio de La Plata (USA) 21 2 - Saeed bin Suroor 120

I think there is every chance that Raven's Pass could win here. Out of the 'big three' he is the only one who has laid out for this race. Both Rio and New Approach are coming here as something of an after thought it seems.

I do think New Approach will turn out to be the best horse in the race in the long run, though.

Laugh if you want, but the maiden, Dubai Meydan is very highly regarded from a small stable and they think he is well up to Group class. He will be a big price if he runs on Saturday and could be worth an each way bet, given how well he has been working.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:14 PM
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New Approach sounds ready... cant wait....

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NEW APPROACH put in a "scintillating"workout on Tuesday ahead of defending his unbeaten record in the Darley Dewhurst Stakes at Newmarket on Saturday.

The National Stakes winner will be attempting to emulate former stablemate Teofilo, who completed an unbeaten juvenile season by landing the Group 1 Newmarket event a year ago when he secured his position as Europe's top two-year-old.

The winner of the Dewhurst should claim that title again this year with New Approach again meeting his immediate National Stakes victim Rio de la Plata.

After the ante-post favourite for the Stan James 2,000 Guineas worked on his Coolcullen gallops, trainer Jim Bolger said: "New Approach worked this morning. It was a scintillating piece of work. It all went very well and he is in very good form for Saturday."

Jamie Spencer has been booked to partner supplementary entry Moynahan for Paul Cole with Richard Quinn maintaining his association with stablemate Luck Money, the Coventry runner-up and Goffs Million winner.

Both completed their preparations for Saturday's contest with an older lead horse at Cole's Whatcombe base.

Emphasising that the work was purely routine, Cole said: "They both worked very well and are in tip-top form. If there is a bit of cut in the ground it shouldn't bother either ofthem."

Moynahan impressed many in winning his maiden from Iguazu Falls at York's big August meeting and stablemate Luck Money was an equally impressive winner of the Goffs Million at The Curragh.
The unbeaten Fast Company was a market mover for the Dewhurst on Tuesday being clipped a point to 7-1 by William Hill, to 8-1 by Skybet and to 9-1 by VCbet.

Trainer Brian Meehan, whose Royal Lodge Stakes winner City Leader is set to run in the Racing Post Trophy the following weekend, saidn Tuesday: "He's in great order. He worked yesterday and looked in very good shape. It's going to be a great race."

Mick Channon had a ground warning about Hatta Fort's participation in one of the season's top two-year-old races.

After Hatta Fort breezed on the woodchip all-weather at West Ilsley, Channon said: "He's come out of his run at Longchamp great but he didn't like the going there. It was a good effort in the circumstances but if the ground's soft he won't run on Saturday."

Newmarketwas bracing itself for upwards of half an inch of rain last night but with a forecast of dry sunny spells from today through to Champions Day.

Clerk of the course Michael Prosser was forecasting good ground by Saturday.

After under 2mm of rain up to teatime on Tuesday, Prosser said: "Two forecasts are saying we will have anywhere between half and two-thirds of an inch of rain overnight.

"Tonight is quite key to what ground we will have but high pressure is forecast to build from Wednesday through to Saturday with plenty of sunny spells on Saturday.

"I think we will be good to soft on Friday on the track used for the Cambridgeshire but on fresh ground on Saturday we should be close to good."
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It was chucking it down about half an hour ago here, and i'm only about six miles from the Rowley Mile track.

Should be a fantastic race, i really hope New Approach will win, but it won't be the end of the world if he doesn't. He isn't bred to be a 2yo and he has achieved more than enough this year for people to realise how good he will be next year with the huge amount of improvement there is to come with this son of Galileo. As long as he runs well, i will be more than happy with that. A win is very much a bonus, like all of his other wins this year have been.

Raven's Pass has been laid out for the race, and his Sandown win has been boosted no end with the second (who was miles behind him) going on to win the Royal Lodge. He looks to be improving. Softish ground might find him out though with the sitff finish.

Rio De La Plata is a nice racehorse, and it has been unfortunate for Godolphin that they have come up against New Approach. If they really thought Rio was better than NA though, why have they purchased a large share of NA? If he is going to overturn the form it will be on Saturday, if he doesn't do it then i don't think he ever will. They have been concerned about soft ground, but speaking to the different people that have ridden him, they have all said he is better with a bit of cut underfoot. So the rain shouldn't be a problem. He has had a long season though, and a very recent race.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:57 AM
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Well, it was raining here all night long last night. Bright sunshine now, but we must have had at least an inch of the wet stuff. The Rowley Mile does dry out quickly, but i think good ground could be the quickest to expect for Saturday.
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I just don't understand Godolphin. Now it looks like Rio won't be running at the weekend because of soft ground, yet everyone who has ridden him thinks he is better with a bit of cut in the ground.

Mr Crisford, just because he is by Rahy, it doesn't always mean that he will want fast ground....... if you were to talk to your staff, no matter how much lower down they are to you in the operation you might learn a thing or two

This is the only chance of Rio beating New Approach in my opinion, and it looks like they are going to cry off with their tails between their legs!


Please, cry babies...... i mean Godolphin, Please run Rio De La Plata on Saturday. It would make for a very good three way battle if he does.
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Raven's Pass now not certain to run, either.
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I'd make my pick but need to wait to see if there will be any actual runners in this race.....
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I'd make my pick but need to wait to see if there will be any actual runners in this race.....
New Approach will be there, he isn't frightened!
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