Derby top 10

[mp3]

Hope I have some credibility on this board.....


1. War Pass....until proven otherwise
2. Pyro............ditto
3. Big Brown...could be no.1 after fla derby
4. Elysium Fields..Ran a bigger race than ccm in FOY
5. Court Vision... Mott will have him sharper in Wood or BG
6. Cool Coal Man...Distance may be limted
7. Dennis of Cork.........has done nothing wrong yet
8. Colonel John....Strange path to churchill, will be on dirt for the first time in KD.
9. El Gato Malo.....needs to relax a bit better early in the race. big talent
10. Hey Byrn....regressed slightly in his last start yet still dominated...

Thoughts?????

[fpsoxfan]

Sounds logical to me MP. There might be a few who bust your balls, but at least you throw it out there.

[SniperSB23]

What has Court Vision done (besides run slow) to warrant such a high spot? The other nine look about right although I'd shift the order around slightly.

[Cannon Shell]

I dont have a list but on March 7th a requirement to be on mine would be more than zero dollars in graded stakes earnings.

[Danzig]

i'd say something mean about big brown (nosing) being so high.....


but i won't.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd say something mean about big brown (nosing) being so high.....


but i won't.

Other than it being indefensibly idiotic what's wrong with it?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont have a list but on March 7th a requirement to be on mine would be more than zero dollars in graded stakes earnings.

Did you feel the same way in '04?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Did you feel the same way in '04?

I feel this way any year. less than 8 weeks out i prefer my list to actually qualify in case of ilness, bad trips, etc.


that is if i actually had a list

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont have a list but on March 7th a requirement to be on mine would be more than zero dollars in graded stakes earnings.

In a normal year perhaps - but, once you get beyond the two best horses this year...what is there left?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What has Court Vision done (besides run slow) to warrant such a high spot? The other nine look about right although I'd shift the order around slightly.

Court Vision would own a standout #1 ranking on my 'Most Likely to plod into a 4th place finish in the Kentucky Derby' list.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Court Vision would own a standout #1 ranking on my 'Most Likely to plod into a 4th place finish in the Kentucky Derby' list.

I don't think he's even fast enough to do that. He'll plod up to crack the top ten but I'd be surprised if he can do any better than 6th.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I don't think he's even fast enough to do that. He'll plod up to crack the top ten but I'd be surprised if he can do any better than 6th.

I think you are underestimating the advantage a horse with Court Vision's plodding style has in a race like the Derby. Just looking at some recent history...

'07 Last year I'mawildandcrazyguy raced back with Street Sense early - and plugged home 4th, about a length behind Curlin and in front of a future Haskell winner.

'06 Steppenwolfer and Jazil - two of the slowest horses around plugged in 3rd and 4th - ahead of the in sharp form trio of Brother Derek, Lawyer Ron, and Sweetnorthernsaint.

'05 Giacomo beat a field including Bellamy Road, Flower Alley, and Afleet Alex

People can talk all they want about horses like War Emblem, Hard Spun, Smarty Jones, Lion Heart and Congaree showing sharp speed in the Derby and running very well - they were all excellent 3yo's - they all came back to win a Grade 1 race later in their 3yo season.

[blackthroatedwind]

I love TC time. It's like a free pass for massive stupidity.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I love TC time. It's like a free pass for massive stupidity.

Been there...done that! I loved C.Quay last year and I lived to tell about it.

[fpsoxfan]

Although while watching Majestic Warrior re-runs today, I am falling into the PYRO camp a little.

[miraja2]

Hossy gave you the best list I've seen yet just a few days ago. In case you guys forgot, here it is:

1. Monba
2. Giant Moon
3. The Roundhouse
4. Alaazo
5. Blackberry Road
6. Understatement
7. Adriano
8. Majestic Warrior
9. Court Vision
10. Any horse that begins with "Z"

Frankly, I don't see how anybody could argue with any of those selections.

Maybe Steve should set up a room just for these "Top 10 Derby Horse" threads that seem to be popping up every 3 days or so. Nothing personal against you mp3.....but we seem to have a lot of these recently.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Hossy gave you the best list I've seen yet just a few days ago. In case you guys forgot, here it is:

1. Monba
2. Giant Moon
3. The Roundhouse
4. Alaazo
5. Blackberry Road
6. Understatement
7. Adriano
8. Majestic Warrior
9. Court Vision
10. Any horse that begins with "Z"

Frankly, I don't see how anybody could argue with any of those selections.

Maybe Steve should set up a room just for these "Top 10 Derby Horse" threads that seem to be popping up every 3 days or so. Nothing personal against you mp3.....but we seem to have a lot of these recently.

perhaps we could have a top ten list of top ten lists....just for fun of course.

[mp3]

you know what I like about you Btw. For a two foot clown, you talk like a big shot and most of the stuff that comes from your mouth ends up spit back in your face. You are a horseplayers dream come true, whatever you say seems to come out exactly opposite. My new strategy is to simply go the absolute opposite way on any suggestions you may have. take a nap and wake up in July, the board will be better off

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by mp3

you know what I like about you Btw. For a two foot clown, you talk like a big shot and most of the stuff that comes from your mouth ends up spit back in your face. You are a horseplayers dream come true, whatever you say seems to come out exactly opposite. My new strategy is to simply go the absolute opposite way on any suggestions you may have. take a nap and wake up in July, the board will be better off

Oh Boy..Here we go.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by mp3

you know what I like about you Btw. For a two foot clown, you talk like a big shot and most of the stuff that comes from your mouth ends up spit back in your face. You are a horseplayers dream come true, whatever you say seems to come out exactly opposite. My new strategy is to simply go the absolute opposite way on any suggestions you may have. take a nap and wake up in July, the board will be better off

I know you're obsessed with One Suit, which is why you seem tied to his favorite lame insult for me, but here's a piece of information for you, if I'm two feet tall then he's two feet three inches.