Bush trying to keep waterboarding

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/...B_Lh79QmWs0NUE


I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THIS.How are you gunna keep Americans from being tortured this same way? I guess he sees it as necessary torture,but everybody is gunna rationalize using it.Goes against American values.They've basically turned us into the same dogs as them.This is what I don't get about a so called "Christian" guy.I can't see Christ doing this.Most of the Christians in HEE HAW LAND are hypocrites like this.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/...B_Lh79QmWs0NUE


I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THIS.How are you gunna keep Americans from being tortured this same way? I guess he sees it as necessary torture,but everybody is gunna rationalize using it.Goes against American values.They've basically turned us into the same dogs as them.This is what I don't get about a so called "Christian" guy.I can't see Christ doing this.Most of the Christians in HEE HAW LAND are hypocrites like this.

They dont waterboard American prisoners, they behead them. The thought that you or i have any idea what is necessary is laughable. Also the thought that it goes against American values is in direct dispute with the truth that we have used torture in extracting information from prisoners since the country was founded, as does the rest of the world.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Also the thought that it goes against American values is in direct dispute with the truth that we have used torture in extracting information from prisoners since the country was founded, as does the rest of the world.

To torture(for whatever reason)is against American Values."We" (American people ) have not been in favor of this,and never will be.If the government does it,then it is going against the values of the American people.It may indeed be "in direct dispute" with the truth(that our government is torturing,) but the fact remains that American Values DON'T include the acceptance of torture.For one thing,it is totally against Christ's teachings.So,in the very least,GEEDUBBYA is pissing on his religion when he does this.You can't just keep calling yourself a METHODIST CHRISTIAN if you're gunna keep supporting torture.This guy is gunna go down as the biggest Hypocrite American ever.He is a disgrace....He is a hypocrite,and acting like a dog.He is about as far from "Christian" as he can get(without getting arrested.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

To torture(for whatever reason)is against American Values."We" (American people ) have not been in favor of this,and never will be.If the government does it,then it is going against the values of the American people.It may indeed be "in direct dispute" with the truth(that our government is torturing,) but the fact remains that American Values DON'T include the acceptance of torture.For one thing,it is totally against Christ's teachings.So,in the very least,GEEDUBBYA is pissing on his religion when he does this.You can't just keep calling yourself a METHODIST CHRISTIAN if you're gunna keep supporting torture.This guy is gunna go down as the biggest Hypocrite American ever.He is a disgrace....He is a hypocrite,and acting like a dog.He is about as far from "Christian" as he can get(without getting arrested.)

I understand that you are probably under the influence and you live in a socialist place but shouldn't a lefty like you be PRAISING Bush for NOT injecting his own religious views in a matter of national security? Of course not because it does not fit your agenda. If he wanted to ban it and mentioned his religion you would be up in arms about seperation of Church and State and how he was using the bible to make policy. Bush did not invent waterboarding and it is obvious that people who are far more privy to its useage are calling for it. It would be a far more popular move to ban it publically than continue to use it anyway (like Sir Hillary would do) but the guy took a stand that you dont like and now he is a hypocrite? Maybe you should volunteer to do some research on waterboarding? Maybe as a test subject?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I understand that you are probably under the influence and you live in a socialist place but shouldn't a lefty like you be PRAISING Bush for NOT injecting his own religious views in a matter of national security? Of course not because it does not fit your agenda. If he wanted to ban it and mentioned his religion you would be up in arms about seperation of Church and State and how he was using the bible to make policy. Bush did not invent waterboarding and it is obvious that people who are far more privy to its useage are calling for it. It would be a far more popular move to ban it publically than continue to use it anyway (like Sir Hillary would do) but the guy took a stand that you dont like and now he is a hypocrite? Maybe you should volunteer to do some research on waterboarding? Maybe as a test subject?

He is a hypocrite.The man is constantly pandering to religious conservatives.It's a main reason he got elected.It's against his religion to torture.It's against American values to torture. He is against stem cell due to religion.Against abortion due to religion.Against gay marriage (due to abortion.)He does use religion in his decision making.That's why he is such a complete "in total" hypocrite.He is ignoring Christianity after he ran on Christian themes like "pro-life,"and "family values." When he likes his religion's views,he courts them,but he ignores them with supporting torture.He should be getting all kind of flack from hee haw bible belt about this.If they were really Christian people,then they would stick up for Christ's views in this case,and be outraged that this fellow Christian is a torturing dog.This is why I have so little respect for the south.For the most part,it's a bunch of damn hypocrite scum.

[pmacdaddy]

Putting what he thinks is best for troops and security ahead of what people at Church may think. I certainly don't have a problem with that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Let me be clear.If you're a Christian,then there is no alternate view here.Torture is not in line with Christ's teachings.So,all these people claiming to be Christians should be outraged,but they won't be(because they are f'n hypocrites.)

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

To torture(for whatever reason)is against American Values."We" (American people ) have not been in favor of this,and never will be.If the government does it,then it is going against the values of the American people.It may indeed be "in direct dispute" with the truth(that our government is torturing,) but the fact remains that American Values DON'T include the acceptance of torture.For one thing,it is totally against Christ's teachings.So,in the very least,GEEDUBBYA is pissing on his religion when he does this.You can't just keep calling yourself a METHODIST CHRISTIAN if you're gunna keep supporting torture.This guy is gunna go down as the biggest Hypocrite American ever.He is a disgrace....He is a hypocrite,and acting like a dog.He is about as far from "Christian" as he can get(without getting arrested.)

You have to keep religion out of this. He is doing what he thinks is best to protect the country. All these bleeding hearts want us to play by some sort of old time American value rulebook, when the rest of the world does whatever hell it wants. The Palestinines went into a school the other day and killed seven students. They rigged up retarded women a few months ago with pipe bombs. Terrorist groups will use whatever means they have to. I think that the FBI, CIA, and Armed Forces shold have the green light to do whatever is necessary in attempt to gain information on possible attacks US properties around the world. These people have no value for life, so why should we show them any sort of compassion when trying to gain information out of them.