Weak Jim Dandy field

These small fields have to stop, but the Ministers Bid-Bernardini showdown should be interesting.

Saratoga - July 29th, 2006 - Race 9
Jim Dandy S. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:46 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $500,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Sunriver (KY) 3 Colt 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Oh So Awesome (KY) 3 Colt 115 Kent J. Desormeaux
3 Bernardini (KY) 3 Colt 123 Javier Castellano
4 Dr. Pleasure (KY) 3 Colt 115 Garrett K. Gomez
5 Hemingway's Key (FL) 3 Colt 115 Julien R. Leparoux
6 Minister's Bid (KY) 3 Colt 115 Edgar S. Prado

Originally Posted by boldruler

These small fields have to stop, but the Ministers Bid-Bernardini showdown should be interesting.

Saratoga - July 29th, 2006 - Race 9
Jim Dandy S. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:46 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $500,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Sunriver (KY) 3 Colt 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Oh So Awesome (KY) 3 Colt 115 Kent J. Desormeaux
3 Bernardini (KY) 3 Colt 123 Javier Castellano
4 Dr. Pleasure (KY) 3 Colt 115 Garrett K. Gomez
5 Hemingway's Key (FL) 3 Colt 115 Julien R. Leparoux
6 Minister's Bid (KY) 3 Colt 115 Edgar S. Prado

sunriver with JV/pletcher at toga not easy..
Gomez on Dr. Pleasure should be interesting as well.

this is a good card for saturday.
dam, they have more action out there in three days than we have all summer.

Two horse race and that is if Ministers Bid has figured out how to race. None of the others are anything special, especially that overrated Sunriver.

[Buffymommy]

Bernardini/Sunriver ex box. But then again I suck lately so take it for what it is worth!

[tycharles01]

Small Field YES

But not a bad one at all!!! Any of these horse could win if Bernardini does not fire

Could be a nice betting race- No 20/1 but some decent prices especially if the public gets happy on Sunriver and Bernardini

I think it is a great field. It is restricted to 3 year olds so you are naturally going to have a small field. Coupled with the Haskell so close and then horses in Cali are going to stay in Cali you dont have much to choose from. But this is a great field. I say Bernardini gets beat in this race.

[Pointg5]

Bernardini
Ministers Bid
Sun River

The rest are slow....

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Small Field YES

But not a bad one at all!!! Any of these horse could win if Bernardini does not fire

Could be a nice betting race- No 20/1 but some decent prices especially if the public gets happy on Sunriver and Bernardini

Yeah, it really isn't weak, just small. I think the Diana is probably the better race. This race has the potential to be another blowout. Let's just hope we don't get another Noble Causeway type scratch at the gate.

The Travers should be an incredible race if a horse like Ministers Bid steps it up here. If not, we could have a 5 horse Travers.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Yeah, it really isn't weak, just small. I think the Diana is probably the better race. This race has the potential to be another blowout. Let's just hope we don't get another Noble Causeway type scratch at the gate.

The Travers should be an incredible race if a horse like Ministers Bid steps it up here. If not, we could have a 5 horse Travers.

I'm glad you clarified that about this race being weak.
It's a small field, but so what?
Now watch this...longshot Hemingsways Key comes home for big bucks.
Minister's Bid finishes four lengths back for place.
Bernardini is another two behind for show...and the bridge jumpers are spared their anguish.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Small Field YES

But not a bad one at all!!! Any of these horse could win if Bernardini does not fire

Could be a nice betting race- No 20/1 but some decent prices especially if the public gets happy on Sunriver and Bernardini

agreed! HUGE difference between small and weak.

[tycharles01]

Just looked at whole Card, Looks Great Fun Card

a Nice 2yr old race (Pegasus Wind, Bullara, Piggott)

Corinthian back against Reverberate,Hesanoldsalt

Diana is a WOW Race (Angara,Wend,Lady of Venice)

[Scav]

Starting to think that Seattle and Bold are lovers, flair for the dramatic.

This is far from a two horse race and it is extremely possible that Bernandi runs 3rd in this race. Both of Ward's horses are long on breeding, long on talent, short on experience, Oh So Awesome took action in the Belmont and is suppose to be a monster, Hemingway ran a good race in the Preakness.

Originally Posted by Scav

Starting to think that Seattle and Bold are lovers, flair for the dramatic.

This is far from a two horse race and it is extremely possible that Bernandi runs 3rd in this race. Both of Ward's horses are long on breeding, long on talent, short on experience, Oh So Awesome took action in the Belmont and is suppose to be a monster, Hemingway ran a good race in the Preakness.

You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

[slotdirt]

What's wrong with that race? No love for Oh So Awesome?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by boldruler

You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

Now that's exactly the kind of thinking that has humbled more than a few (myself included). Let them pound Bernardini, fine with me...better the odds for HK.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Now that's exactly the kind of thinking that has humbled more than a few (myself included). Let them pound Bernardini, fine with me...better the odds for HK.

Bernardini will be an all-time great. That coming from a guy who worships Barbaro and told me Bernardini probably is a better horse. He is the goods.

[irishtrekker]

I think Minister's Bid could give Bernardini a run for it, not sure about Sunriver. They're all fresh horses now, and Bernardini did run against BD and SNS when they'd already run the Derby. Don't get me wrong - Bernardini could indeed be something really special, but I want to see one more race before I join the bandwagon. I still have a lot to learn, so please be kind when you jump all over me.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by boldruler

You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

You are obviously not familiar with the bounce theory. This horse ran HUGE last night. At the 3/5 or 4/5 he is going to be this coming weekend, he is a great play against IMO...when I say HUGE, I MEAN HUGE....I would be willing to say that horses that run as huge as he did fail about 75% to get anywhere near that number again and bounce (regardless of time between races) heavily

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Scav

You are obviously not familiar with the bounce theory. This horse ran HUGE last night. At the 3/5 or 4/5 he is going to be this coming weekend, he is a great play against IMO...when I say HUGE, I MEAN HUGE....I would be willing to say that horses that run as huge as he did fail about 75% to get anywhere near that number again and bounce (regardless of time between races) heavily

Huh..he was supposed to bounce in the Preakness...horses that have almost 2 and a half months off tend not to bounce....

[Scav]

A perfect example of this is that Dubai escapade filly that bounced like a superball last out at Calder, that horse had run a monster race, degressed slightly and the TOO THE MOON she went, didn't even hit the board....

Not saying he is a guarantee to bounce but from an investment angle, get your money in against him