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Old 07-29-2008, 03:11 PM
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I just got a stable mail entry for Fabulous Strike, who is entered in a non graded sprint at MNR this weekend. Wasn't his foot all messed up just a few days ago??

My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:28 PM
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"Entered" doesn't mean "runs".. Could enter hoping that he's healthy enough to run.

Why would there be an issue that Beattie wants to get a prep start in BEFORE the horse runs in the Forego?
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:32 PM
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He's coupled with another Beattie horse and Whitney is named on both.

Perhaps entering FS and not scratching him until as late as possible might also be a clever ploy to reduce the field size.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:33 PM
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My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.
As low as jockeys?
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:49 PM
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Lower.

While jocks I tend to view as having no brains, trainers seem to be full of shi.t.

I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:10 PM
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Lower.

While jocks I tend to view as having no brains, trainers seem to be full of shi.t.

I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.
This is a classic! That implys that all trainers arent stupid (not true) and that my friend is a compliment. We seem to think that people who believe what is written in the racing form as news as closer to the naive side than stupid. I wonder how you know exactly what is going on enough to call people liars.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:29 PM
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This is a classic! That implys that all trainers arent stupid (not true) and that my friend is a compliment. We seem to think that people who believe what is written in the racing form as news as closer to the naive side than stupid. I wonder how you know exactly what is going on enough to call people liars.
I wasn't speaking in absolutes dude, as evidenced by my wording. This perhaps puts you into the sub-group of trainers that isn't complimented by my previous post.

As for the inane point you make about knowing exactly what is going on enough to call people liars? Let's see if your trainer mind can handle this logic.

1. The trainer of Fabulous Strike (FS) scratches out of the race at Saratoga citing an injury that will keep him from racing for at least about a month.

2. Two to three days later he enters the same horse in another race.

Even to the most lame brained trainer out there, this can really only mean one of two things. First, the trainer lied about the injury and is ducking the race. Second, there really is an injury, but as postulated by someone else that trainer is using this horse in the second race as a way of scaring away competition so that the other horse he's entered has a better chance of winning.

Are you still able to follow me thus far?

I will spell this out for you in the most basic way I can so that you understand how I know a trainer is lying.

If the first instance is true, the lie is obvious and self evident.
If it's the second instance, he is, while not necessarily lying, using deceit if he has no intention of running his horse. In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.

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Old 07-29-2008, 09:10 PM
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In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.
He wanted to make up a BS story to duck the mighty Abraaj.

Isn't that obvious?
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:45 PM
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I wasn't speaking in absolutes dude, as evidenced by my wording. This perhaps puts you into the sub-group of trainers that isn't complimented by my previous post.

As for the inane point you make about knowing exactly what is going on enough to call people liars? Let's see if your trainer mind can handle this logic.

1. The trainer of Fabulous Strike (FS) scratches out of the race at Saratoga citing an injury that will keep him from racing for at least about a month.

2. Two to three days later he enters the same horse in another race.

Even to the most lame brained trainer out there, this can really only mean one of two things. First, the trainer lied about the injury and is ducking the race. Second, there really is an injury, but as postulated by someone else that trainer is using this horse in the second race as a way of scaring away competition so that the other horse he's entered has a better chance of winning.

Are you still able to follow me thus far?

I will spell this out for you in the most basic way I can so that you understand how I know a trainer is lying.

If the first instance is true, the lie is obvious and self evident.
If it's the second instance, he is, while not necessarily lying, using deceit if he has no intention of running his horse. In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.
And do you know the circumstances surrounding any of the trainers comments or motives? No. In case you didnt understand we pay to enter stakes and have the discretion to scratch anytime up to 45 minutes before posttime without any reason.

Let me spell this out to you, as long as you are getting your information from the racing form and bloodhorse you are as good as in the dark about what is really going on. I'm sure the Patriots listing Brady as having a shoulder injury for 48 consecutive weeks send you into a rage also.

Did you ever consider that perhaps the initial diagnosis was incorrect?
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:12 PM
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I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.
honesty and ingenuousness are overrated.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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honesty and ingenuousness are overrated.

Yeah dude, that's become really obvious.
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I just got a stable mail entry for Fabulous Strike, who is entered in a non graded sprint at MNR this weekend. Wasn't his foot all messed up just a few days ago??

My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:31 PM
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There is that, but the race this weekend would have been as well, if he was sound enough to run.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:48 PM
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perhaps the injury was very slight, not something to take on tougher competition with? but the horse can race, so warm him up against lesser horses?
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