Thorograph's Promo: Race of the Week-Spectacular Bid

[docicu3]

I get absolutely nothing for saying this so please don't think I am turning a buck on this one as one confused Grinch thought last year but Thorograph makes all of their products absolutely free, races run Dec 26th til Jan 1, for downloading until the New Year with everything from full sheets to analysis and race shapes which have early speed info you might find useful at Aqueduct on the Inner.

Of course it has it's small perplexing issues to deal with too......like what the heck do they see in Collooney Country in the 4th tomorrow but if your willing to set up an account at no cost there are some great free handicapping products for the next week or so...

[ateamstupid]

Thanks for the heads up Doc.

[-BT-]

i really wanna give these sheets a try, and i downloaded saturdays card, but i have no idea what the hell im looking at

the race shapes charts are kinda cool though


-bt-

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i really wanna give these sheets a try, and i downloaded saturdays card, but i have no idea what the hell im looking at

the race shapes charts are kinda cool though


-bt-

BT,

Ask whatever questions you want and the TG players here can help you walk through it. I host the Thoro-Graph Seminars at Saratoga on the weekends and Scav has helped do statistical research work for Jerry Brown. A number of others here a very familiar with the figures and patterns as well.

Spend a few minutes reading through the basic explanation page first though to get a feel for what is on the sheets. From there, you are looking to "read the pattern" of each horse in a race as a means t project what kind of effort to expect today.

Is the horse ready to establish a new "top"?

Is the horse likely to regress ("bounce" or "off" or "X") because his last effort was a strenuous one?

Has a horse coming off a new top he had enough time since that effort to expect a similar performance ("pair").

There is a lot to it, and it takes time to understand the patterns, but the figures are a tremendous tool which I use daily and believe in implicitly.

We're meeting people for a Dinner shortly, but will check back later to see if there is anything you came up with. I would encourage everyone interested to register at Thoro-Graph and use the free product all week.

http://www.thorograph.com/

We can use the thread as a Q and A for anyone learning the product...

[golfer]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i really wanna give these sheets a try, and i downloaded saturdays card, but i have no idea what the hell im looking at

the race shapes charts are kinda cool though


-bt-

Click on the introduction page at the TG website for all the information you will need as to what everything means.

Go through some of the Race of the Week pages to see how these things are interpreted.

I've been using them for a few years, and someday's I too have no idea what I'm looking at

[VOL JACK]

The key to using the TG's, for myself, is using them in company with the pp's.
I see alot of 10k claimers running really good tg figs, alot of times the same as what a nice 50k claimer would be running.
However, if the 2 horses ran in the same race, we all know who would win.

Basically, It comes down to the most important thing in capping a race; CLASS.
I like seeing the patterns of each horse in the race. Which tend to jump out much more for me when using the Thoro-quick layout.
I also like the trainer stats more than the ones in the DRF.

The biggest advantage of TG's is searching for the 'hidden horse'. The runner that is just as fast on the TG's, but doesn't look good enough on the PP's.
I mainly buy the TG when Im stuck on a race of evenly matched horses, that you know if you can solve the puzzle you will be rewarded.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i really wanna give these sheets a try, and i downloaded saturdays card, but i have no idea what the hell im looking at

the race shapes charts are kinda cool though


-bt-

Call me up bro. I've toyed with these for a few years now and have at least a working knowledge of their figs and a some understanding of what they look for.

This really is a great promo if you take the time to handicap then review the results whether you bet or not.

[herkhorse]

Thanks for the link, TG virgin so I'll start with some dumb questions.

What do the dots, squares, triangles and diamonds mean?

What does this mean --, before a number (ie --16)?

[dellinger63]

a - before a number designates a turf race not sure I've ever seen a -- or dot square triangle form yes but not sheets. Finger Lakes numbers are inflated (lower than they should be) only IMO.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Thanks for the link, TG virgin so I'll start with some dumb questions.

What do the dots, squares, triangles and diamonds mean?

What does this mean --, before a number (ie --16)?

the '-' sign before the number means it was a turf race.

Triangle next to track name= trainer change
four diamond next to number means synethic track
Squares = insufficient data to make number (if in number area)
Diamond next to track name = med change (Lasix or bute)
Dot = I think means equipment change

The symbol sheet isn't working on their site, but I use it all the time because I never remember.