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Old 08-04-2006, 09:32 AM
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Oracle just called....OFF the turf today.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:32 AM
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Oracle just called....OFF the turf today.
DOH!!!

That stinks.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:36 AM
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But come on, oracle never has any good information, right? Isn't that what folks say?
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:39 AM
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Its a gooey mess. I went to the workouts today, rained very hard from 4am to 6am. All clear now though and will dry out soon enough. Good call on the turf, there are puddles everywhere.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:40 AM
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Its a gooey mess. I went to the workouts today, rained very hard from 4am to 6am. All clear now though and will dry out soon enough. Good call on the turf, there are puddles everywhere.

Tim....Im sure it will dry out enough throughout this morning to be rated fast sometime this afternoon, right?
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:43 AM
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Yes that would be my guess Kev. Maybe for the first part of the card it will be a "drying out track", which by the way are the hardest to handicap on. Maybe the late pick 4 will be on a fast or good track. I strongly recommend waiting for tomorrow's races which look fabulous from start to finish.

I will be at the workouts so if you are up early tomorrow, give my phone a call. Maybe English Channel will be working out.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:35 AM
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Well I hated to be the bearer of bad news but I thought I'd call Kev and let you guys know. It rained pretty hard here. The sun is shining and there is a breeze and its warm. The track should start out sealed and muddy and progress to good/fast throughout the day. I can't see it staying muddy the whole day unless Passero decides to have one of his lothed sealed track festivals.
Drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. Joe King is the best in the business and for years here he never sealed a damn track. You harrow it and leave it cut open and the wind and sun will do the rest. When I see those cement blocks dragging behind the tractors I wanna pull a Joe Pesci(Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield) and leap over the fence and attack the guy. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep water sealed into and pushed down into a racetrack, none.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:36 AM
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Well I hated to be the bearer of bad news but I thought I'd call Kev and let you guys know. It rained pretty hard here. The sun is shining and there is a breeze and its warm. The track should start out sealed and muddy and progress to good/fast throughout the day. I can't see it staying muddy the whole day unless Passero decides to have one of his lothed sealed track festivals.
Drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. Joe King is the best in the business and for years here he never sealed a damn track. You harrow it and leave it cut open and the wind and sun will do the rest. When I see those cement blocks dragging behind the tractors I wanna pull a Joe Pesci(Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield) and leap over the fence and attack the guy. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep water sealed into and pushed down into a racetrack, none.

Mike...if I play the late 4, think it is safe enough for me to cap it as dry and fast?
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:39 AM
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Mike...if I play the late 4, think it is safe enough for me to cap it as dry and fast?
I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:44 AM
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I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.

Yeah...thats why I really just plan on watching the early part of the card. If I don't like the way that it's playing, there is always tomorrow. I also want to see the scratches too, before deciding if I am gonna play.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:54 AM
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I also want to see the scratches too

There will be many. I hear the Violette horse in the 5th can run.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:09 AM
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I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.
You're right.
I'm not there to look at the track but the web site says "muddy sealed".
Will definitely change all day.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:15 AM
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Love In the Gold even more now, this also moves Yolanda up to the 2nd spot IMO
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