Is the current Pope a disgrace to the Cathloic Church

[Mike]

I say it's gone far enough to see him befriending pedophiles and,now, Nazi sympathizers.





Sorry about the misspelling of Catholic, I can't seem to go back and edit it

[Antitrust32]

yes and so was the last pope.

Turned a blind eye to all the abuse happening in his church... oh just move the pedophiles to another church so they can go on abusing.

Yet everyone seems to call him a saint... he was a scumbag.

Now this current pope makes speeches about gays should be eliminated (not in those exact words but that was the feeling of the speech)... now he accepts people who openly demand that the holocaust never existed.

John Paul and Bendadick, if there is a heaven or a hell... I dont see them being in the place above.

[Mike]

Well, Anti-trust and I are certainly on common ground here. I'm not sure anyone on this forum will defend Benedict(or whatever, Bendadick like you said).

I do think their are still many who think the Pope is not subject to scrutiny, that the Pope is somehow channeling Gods' will, thus criticism would be blasphemous

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Mike

I say it's gone far enough to see him befriending pedophiles and,now, Nazi sympathizers.





Sorry about the misspelling of Catholic, I can't seem to go back and edit it

this is the guy working towards getting pius the 12th sainthood(hitler's pope)-so i would say his recent move to rehabilitate the bishops who are holocaust deniers isn't exactly shocking.

[Mike]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Pope

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

I say it's gone far enough to see him befriending pedophiles and,now, Nazi sympathizers.





Sorry about the misspelling of Catholic, I can't seem to go back and edit it

As a Catholic I find this completely offensive. Where is your proof that he is befriending pedophiles? Making him responsible for every action taken by a priest is completely wrong. And to get the facts straight read this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pop...025223422.html

[Mike]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

As a Catholic I find this completely offensive. Where is your proof that he is befriending pedophiles? Making him responsible for every action taken by a priest is completely wrong. And to get the facts straight read this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pop...025223422.html

I'm going to stock my ammo, dellinger, it may take a while.

I'm a Catholic, too.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

I'm going to stock my ammo, dellinger, it may take a while.

I'm a Catholic, too.

Go at it. GL
aren't the vast majority of Priest Pedophile targets boys? Would be as ignorant as me thinking all Gays are Pedophiles.

[Mike]

You know, dellinger, it's going to be pretty easy to show the links revealing the Blagojevich side of this current Pope.


I do think their are still many who think the Pope is not subject to scrutiny, that the Pope is somehow channeling Gods' will, thus criticism would be blasphemous

How do you feel about this statement?

[Mike]

Nice article on calls from within the Catholic church for the Pope to resign:
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-en...ilitation.html

Here's a few excerpts:

Theologian Hermann Haering went so far as to say that the Pope should resign: “If the Pope wants to do something good for the church, he should step down.”


But Vatican spokesman, Reverend Federico Lombardi, told AP that the Pope’s “absolutely indefensible” decision to reinstate Williamson did not reflect the Vatican’s views: “They are his personal ideas ... that we certainly don't share”

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

You know, dellinger, it's going to be pretty easy to show the links revealing the Blagojevich side of this current Pope.


[I]I do think their are still many who think the Pope is not subject to scrutiny, that the Pope is somehow channeling Gods' will, thus criticism would be blasphemous[/i]

How do you feel about this statement?

Blago? WTF? I was never taught the Pope was channeling anything from God unless he is blessing bread and wine so the question makes no sense to me.

[Mike]

Why is it you come to this guys defense? I see no reason, in our modern world, to bestow any special reverence on a pope or a priest. I think you're holding him on a higher pedestal. I think he's a man, good and bad, no different than anyone, not picked in any way by God


Do you really get a good feeling from this Pope?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

As a Catholic I find this completely offensive. Where is your proof that he is befriending pedophiles? Making him responsible for every action taken by a priest is completely wrong. And to get the facts straight read this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pop...025223422.html

Hell, I just read your counter-argument article and it sucks. The Pope takes no responsibility for anything, tells us to believe what he now says, not what he's done: says it has caused "great suffering to the church" putting the church's interests ahead of the individuals, and he says he has a difficult time understanding how this all came about.

Yet he wrote and enforced the policy of cover up and silence, and letting the pedophile continue on.

Sick f.u.c.k.s

Dellinger, I challenge you to find me a link to a web site anymore perverted than this crew

[Mike]

On Dellinger's Sydney Morning Herald source, from Wikipedia:

Historically, the SMH has been a conservative newspaper as evidenced by the fact that it did not endorse the Australian Labor Party at any election until 1984 or at a state election until 2003. Its parent company, Fairfax, is chaired by a high-profile former member of the Liberal party, Ron Walker.

The Sydney Morning Herald is historically credited with high standards of journalism; however, in recent years it has been accused of "dumbing down" editorial content, with more space allocated to larger photographs and lifestyle-based stories.[1]

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

On Dellinger's Sydney Morning Herald source, from Wikipedia:

Historically, the SMH has been a conservative newspaper as evidenced by the fact that it did not endorse the Australian Labor Party at any election until 1984 or at a state election until 2003. Its parent company, Fairfax, is chaired by a high-profile former member of the Liberal party, Ron Walker.

The Sydney Morning Herald is historically credited with high standards of journalism; however, in recent years it has been accused of "dumbing down" editorial content, with more space allocated to larger photographs and lifestyle-based stories.[1]

and your point is? You used the End Times who states Canada, Mexico and the U.S. are conspirators with 'the trialateral commission and the council of foreign relations' to form a new country forsaking the constitution and the Sovereignty of the US. Now that's one hell of a source!!!!

[Mike]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and your point is? You used the End Times who states Canada, Mexico and the U.S. are conspirators with 'the trialateral commission and the council of foreign relations' to form a new country forsaking the constitution and the Sovereignty of the US. Now that's one hell of a source!!!!

I threw that referenced link out, dellinger, I didn't need it. Watch the BBC documentary, if you take issue, tell me. I've backed down and admitted I was in the wrong more than once before on this forum

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

Hell, I just read your counter-argument article and it sucks. The Pope takes no responsibility for anything, tells us to believe what he now says, not what he's done: says it has caused "great suffering to the church" putting the church's interests ahead of the individuals, and he says he has a difficult time understanding how this all came about.

Yet he wrote and enforced the policy of cover up and silence, and letting the pedophile continue on.

Sick f.u.c.k.s

Dellinger, I challenge you to find me a link to a web site anymore perverted than this crew

MANBLA

Checkmate

[dellinger63]

they're too cowardly to have a website so try this one

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

and Mike I don't believe for a second you're Catholic or any other religion for that matter.

[Danzig]

what's manbla? i'm afraid to ask..have heard of nambla, is it similar?