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Old 02-16-2009, 12:41 PM
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Dropping the whip is sometimes a good thing.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:57 PM
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yeah but she falls out of the gate alot
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:57 PM
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Dropping the whip is sometimes a good thing.

Didn't Rajiv knock it out of her hands?
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Old 02-17-2009, 09:04 PM
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Maylan is only three wins away from losing her bug and resuming her riding career...










































At Philly.

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Old 02-17-2009, 09:10 PM
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Yes, her NY career is almost over, unless it moves to Rochester.
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Old 02-17-2009, 09:22 PM
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Yes, her NY career is almost over, unless it moves to Rochester.
For some reason I just see her trying Chicago now that Inez won't be around any longer (lost her bug). Kinda hoping she does come here so I can have 2 weeks of her getting bet heavy because she is 'from New York'. One of our favorites Ariel Smith tried it and it was great till run out of town.....
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:05 PM
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Maylan is only three wins away from losing her bug and resuming her riding career...







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She's not that good.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:57 PM
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Didn't Rajiv knock it out of her hands?
He did. Though unintentional, it appears to have worked against him. The track probably played some role in her winning, however, I think Maragh was exposed when he had a chance to go inside of her before the turn and didn't.

I'm not exactly her biggest supporter but she showed me something this race. Who whips harder? Maylan or Hill?
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:05 AM
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Most horses like to rally OUTSIDE of horses.

I just don't get why this is so confusing to you.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:59 AM
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Most horses like to rally OUTSIDE of horses.

I just don't get why this is so confusing to you.
The reason this ISN"T confusing, as is the case for those horses that lack room but don't run when they get clear, is that there are cases where horses actually run inside. In fact, the winner of the race under discussion had no problem running inside. There's what trainers believe and then there's what the replays reveal.

Moreover, if you look at race charts over an extended period of time and identify patterns or types, in general or specific to a track, you'll notice that most of the IMPRESSIVE RUNS are by horses that saved ground -- that did LESS running than the others.

But let's look at this a little bit closer. Is it really the horses that don't want to run inside/between or is it the jocks? Obviously a jock can't put a horse into a strong drive when it is behind horses. Under those circumstances, going OUTSIDE is optimum. When there are no other horses ahead of a given horse, inside or out is essentially the same.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:28 AM
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Horses like to RALLY outside horses. Comparing this to a horse riding the rail while on the lead doesn't make sense. When you add in Monday's strong rail, and the lack of ability by the second finisher, you create a recipe for the winner hanging on.

The most preferable trip is saving ground on the turn and angling outside into the clear in the stretch when you are coming from behind....unless you are dealing with a horse that is an effective rail runner. These horses may not be rare but they aren't the norm.
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