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[IrishofNDMan]

I love seeing all the protest about Notre Dame letting Obama speak at this years graduation ceremony. He has absolutely no place at ND, it makes no sense letting someone speak who goes against everything your University stands for and believes in. Good to see bishops and priest along with many others getting all over them for it. If they go through with it and let Obama be the speaker, I will lose a lot of respect that I have for them.

http://notredamescandal.com/

[Danzig]

yes, it's always best to only have people who agree with you on everything to come around. much easier that way.

[AeWingnut]

75% of the students want him to speak or 75% of the ones they ask want zerO to speak?

For God's sake Obama is for infanticide. The murdering of a child after it is born if the intent of the "mother" was to kill her baby.

Norte Dame is supposed to be a catholic school. Catholics are supposed to pro-life. I know there are plenty of them that aren't and they are worthless.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

75% of the students want him to speak or 75% of the ones they ask want zerO to speak?

For God's sake Obama is for infanticide. The murdering of a child after it is born if the intent of the "mother" was to kill her baby.

Norte Dame is supposed to be a catholic school. Catholics are supposed to pro-life. I know there are plenty of them that aren't and they are worthless.

Ironically, I kind of agree with ND here...I mean, if I was on a team that was invited to the Bush White House I would have not showed up..so it would be hypocritical to make ND people do the same. Why they invited him in the first place is beyond me...Wasn't Ann Coulter available?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This thread has some real potential.

It brings me back to my early days on DT when you and I were on it with Irish and his crazy ND loyalty...even though he goes to Michigan State..

and I've met Austin and he's a good dude...but obviously there are some differences of opinion

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It brings me back to my early days on DT when you and I were on it with Irish and his crazy ND loyalty...even though he goes to Michigan State..

and I've met Austin and he's a good dude...but obviously there are some differences of opinion

I'm sure he's a good dude and all, but wow.

He really makes me feel old. It is great to have things that you stand for and to fight for them and his enthusiasm over the issue is commendable. I get the impression that if he were voting and the only candidate on the ticket that was against abortion was Charles Manson, Charlie would get his vote.

I get that he's still in college, but his horizons need to be broadened. I would love to revist this thread after he gets out of school and spends about 10 yrs in the real world. I would assume, with his beliefs, that he will have about 8 kids running around (or a sexless marriage, take your pick) and he will be much more interested in the economy and his own job stability, and much less interested in a politician's view on abortion.

[Antitrust32]

i think ND is being ridiculous.. who wouldnt want the POTUS to speak at your school? They should have Michael Jackson... he fits in with the Priest mentality.

Dumb asses. At least they suck at football.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

75% of the students want him to speak or 75% of the ones they ask want zerO to speak?

For God's sake Obama is for infanticide. The murdering of a child after it is born if the intent of the "mother" was to kill her baby.

Norte Dame is supposed to be a catholic school. Catholics are supposed to pro-life. I know there are plenty of them that aren't and they are worthless.

97% of the Seniors want him to speak...guess they are all worthless too
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps...3290336/-1/XML

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by GBBob

97% of the Seniors want him to speak...guess they are all worthless too
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps...3290336/-1/XML

the link refuses to load and you know how internet polls work. Click Click Click...

I just saw a poll that had 110% of the students want him to speak (without a teleprompter)

ummmm uh ummmm

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I love seeing all the protest about Notre Dame letting Obama speak at this years graduation ceremony. He has absolutely no place at ND, it makes no sense letting someone speak who goes against everything your University stands for and believes in. Good to see bishops and priest along with many others getting all over them for it. If they go through with it and let Obama be the speaker, I will lose a lot of respect that I have for them.

http://notredamescandal.com/

It's too bad 75% of the students want him to speak there...and I hope all your football players on scholarship are as "Catholic" as those Bishops and Priests

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I love seeing all the protest about Notre Dame letting Obama speak at this years graduation ceremony. He has absolutely no place at ND, it makes no sense letting someone speak who goes against everything your University stands for and believes in. Good to see bishops and priest along with many others getting all over them for it. If they go through with it and let Obama be the speaker, I will lose a lot of respect that I have for them.

http://notredamescandal.com/

The Catholic Church also opposes the Death Penalty.
Just out of curiosity, would you "lose a lot of respect" for the school if they allowed someone who was in favor of the Death Penalty to speak at the school?

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The Catholic Church also opposes the Death Penalty.
Just out of curiosity, would you "lose a lot of respect" for the school if they allowed someone who was in favor of the Death Penalty to speak at the school?

I think in the bible it does read "an eye for an eye"

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I think in the bible it does read "an eye for an eye"

Then why does the Cathoic Church officially oppose the Death Penalty?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Then why does the Cathoic Church officially oppose the Death Penalty?

It would be pretty hypocritical of them not to...but I guess that has never stopped them before

[Antitrust32]

Can you buy condoms on campus at ND? Is there a REALLY bad STD problem there?

just wondering


and by the way Irish, I really disagree with a lot of the liberal ideas Obama is implementing, but I would jump on a chance to see him speak... Also, I didnt agree with tons of things Bush did, but I'd love to see him speak as long as he brought a translator.

abortion is a touchy subject.. but I know a few women who have had them (as does everybody), and I would never judge them for making that hard decision.

[miraja2]

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

well said

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The thing I don't get - and the reason I brought up the death penalty - is why abortion seems to be the only issue that matters for some people.
For people like IrishofNDMan, it seems like as long as the person is anti-choice they are welcome at a place like ND, even if they disagree with the Church about other issues. If some other person agrees on a lot of the issues the Church has an opinion on, but is pro-choice....well, that person isn't welcome.
Now, clearly this isn't reflective of all Catholics, because Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote (as compared to under 50% of the Protestant vote), but a few high-profile Catholics have seemed to raise the anti-choice agenda as the one and only criteria for being a true Catholic.
As a former Catholic, that seems a little odd to me.

i asked the same type thing a few weeks back in a thread that followed similar lines.
notre dame isn't a strictly catholic institution, so i don't see that a school who has a divergent student body can suddenly cry foul and use their supposed 'school religion' as a reason to bar a speaker.

and as a former catholic, a lot of what the church does, what it stands for, is odd to me.

[philcski]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone who goes to Michigan State has such a strong pulse on what's going on at Notre Dame.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I think in the bible it does read "an eye for an eye"

it also says turn the other cheek.

but then, i've always found that you can back up your position, whatever it may be, with something found somewhere in that book.