Imus fired why not Letterman

[gales0678]

Imus got booted over his remarks about the women's rutgers team. He apoligized , was fired , and went to meet with the team in person to apoligize again knowing he wasn't getting his job back.

Letterman still has his gig , has apoligized , most likely won't be going to Alaska to meet the palin girls in person to apoligize

does he deserve the same fate as Imus or is his simple apology eneough to save his job? how do the women here feel about this? why should one guy get the ax and the other one get to keep his job?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Imus got booted over his remarks about the women's rutgers team. He apoligized , was fired , and went to meet with the team in person to apoligize again knowing he wasn't getting his job back.

Letterman still has his gig , has apoligized , most likely won't be going to Alaska to meet the palin girls in person to apoligize

does he deserve the same fate as Imus or is his simple apology eneough to save his job? how do the women here feel about this? why should one guy get the ax and the other one get to keep his job?

So you think calling women nappy headed hoes and jiggaboos is on par with a joke about an 18 year old who did get knocked up, being knocked up?

EDIT: And I'm not sure Imus should have been fired either..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So you think calling women nappy headed hoes and jiggaboos is on par with a joke about an 18 year old who did get knocked up, being knocked up?

absolutely not.

perhaps palin should have spent more time with her daughters and less time on her political career, then they wouldn't be fodder for jokes right now.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Danzig

absolutely not.

perhaps palin should have spent more time with her daughters and less time on her political career, then they wouldn't be fodder for jokes right now.

The thing is, even if Palin paid them no attention, why should there be jokes made about them at all? Is the media so outrageously obnoxious that now children are fair game too?

Letterman may have been referring to Palin's 18 YO daughter but he knew it was her 14 YO daughter that was with her because he had just joked about it. He shouldn't be fired but he should stay away from jokes that involve people's children. Isn't that reasonable?

NT

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The thing is, even if Palin paid them no attention, why should there be jokes made about them at all? Is the media so outrageously obnoxious that now children are fair game too?

Letterman may have been referring to Palin's 18 YO daughter but he knew it was her 14 YO daughter that was with her because he had just joked about it. He shouldn't be fired but he should stay away from jokes that involve people's children. Isn't that reasonable?

NT

He realizes this. He issued a detailed apology on his show. I think this should do it:

http://tv.yahoo.com/the-late-show-wi...palin__ER:1358

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The thing is, even if Palin paid them no attention, why should there be jokes made about them at all? Is the media so outrageously obnoxious that now children are fair game too?

Letterman may have been referring to Palin's 18 YO daughter but he knew it was her 14 YO daughter that was with her because he had just joked about it. He shouldn't be fired but he should stay away from jokes that involve people's children. Isn't that reasonable?

NT

i personally wouldn't go after her family...but it's a tricky situation. you have pols who put their kids out there to begin with, which i also wouldn't engage in. also, it's not as tho palin is the first to deal with her kids getting attention, unwanted or not. i don't think it's right, but it certainly is part and parcel with the job.
and he's not the first, or the only-like the article above said, these jokes have been around since she was first named mccains running mate-so why is she up in arms now? a ploy to get her attention perhaps?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i personally wouldn't go after her family...but it's a tricky situation. you have pols who put their kids out there to begin with, which i also wouldn't engage in. also, it's not as tho palin is the first to deal with her kids getting attention, unwanted or not. i don't think it's right, but it certainly is part and parcel with the job.
and he's not the first, or the only-like the article above said, these jokes have been around since she was first named mccains running mate-so why is she up in arms now? a ploy to get her attention perhaps?

Perhaps not.......the woman deals with a perceieved threat/slight.....just as Al
and Jesse or Frank deal with perception! It was something....but still much-ado

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

absolutely not.

perhaps palin should have spent more time with her daughters and less time on her political career, then they wouldn't be fodder for jokes right now.

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble . See Nancy Reagan too!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

looks like the young ms clinton turned out alright with mommy and daddy both burning the mid night oil - one for the state and the other for the law firm

[the_fat_man]

This is a perfect example of why most of the world thinks Americans are IDIOTS (among other things).

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

old fashion does not cut it anymore , i wish it did, but , more and more women are in the workplace - they are mothers and they are going to work 80+ hrs a week once they reach high levels in corporations and gov't - that's what it takes in these types of jobs to make it - total dedication to the job , there is no shortcut , no sunday's off , it's 24/7 - that's the way the world works today if you want a high level job at the corporate or gov't level ---there are no more 9 to 5's

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

LOL your funny , my mom got preggo at 17 in the early 60's , her mom didnt work , she never spent a day at the babysitter or anywhere else , went to church every Sunday , was an A student and somehow and I dont know how managed to get knocked up. Boys and girls will do what they want when they are out of your sight , I think its most likely you never did anything that your parents didnt like when they werent around , you little angel you .

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So you think calling women nappy headed hoes and jiggaboos is on par with a joke about an 18 year old who did get knocked up, being knocked up?

it doesn't matter what i think , my post was more directed at the women here

aren't both "jokes" a slap at women in general , don't both joke undermine women everywhere? why should 1 guy get a pass and another get fired?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

it doesn't matter what i think , my post was more directed at the women here

aren't both "jokes" a slap at women in general , don't both joke undermine women everywhere? why should 1 guy get a pass and another get fired?

I'm sure there are TONS of women who would love to be knocked up by A-roid during the 7th inning of a Yankee's game.

Palin should either challenge Letterman to a steel cage death match or STFU.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm sure there are TONS of REALLY DESPERATE women who would love to be knocked up by A-roid during the 7th inning of a Yankee's game.

Palin should either challenge Letterman to a steel cage death match or STFU.

ftfy

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm sure there are TONS of women who would love to be knocked up by A-roid during the 7th inning of a Yankee's game.

Palin should either challenge Letterman to a steel cage death match or STFU.

see - i can respect your opinon - you are a woman , so if you don't feel both comments are a slap at women everywhere , then unless one of the other girls are around , the thread is over

doesn't matter what bob or i think

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

see - i can respect your opinon - you are a woman , so if you don't feel both comments are a slap at women everywhere , then unless one of the other girls are around , the thread is over

doesn't matter what bob or i think

Bob is entitled to his own opinion as are you.

The joke was in poor taste but not even in the same zip code as the imus comments which were racially crude as well.

Palin sensationalizing this for political gain is pretty sick in my opinion. The joke was about the daughter that had a baby. Did she ever get married by the way?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

see - i can respect your opinon - you are a woman , so if you don't feel both comments are a slap at women everywhere , then unless one of the other girls are around , the thread is over

doesn't matter what bob or i think

Come on Marty...respect mine too!!

lol..kidding and understood

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

see - i can respect your opinon - you are a woman , so if you don't feel both comments are a slap at women everywhere , then unless one of the other girls are around , the thread is over

doesn't matter what bob or i think

LOL... I rarely have the same opinion of other women.. I'm kind of a dude mentally. I would take my opinion as a grain of salt.

But I didnt care about the Imus comment or the Letterman comment. Both were in poor taste, and if the people who were referenced wanted an apology, they should get one... which they did.

But neither guy should have been fired for it. What about that first amendment that allows people to bash gays on tv and the radio all the time? But thats not a big deal because gays ruin the moral fabric of America, or whatever the hell that means.