Jms62 vs. Hockey2315 Stakes Contest

[hockey2315]

Here's what I propose:

- $2 Win/Place wagers on all U.S. graded stakes races that occur on Saturdays, Grade 1 races that occur on ANY day of the week in the U.S. and Canada, and ALL Breeders' Cup races. The contest races for a given week must be listed and established prior to posting picks so that there is no confusion (i.e. somebody might miss an obscure G3 at an obscure track otherwise). The contestant with the most profit (or smallest loss) through the Breeders' Cup Classic is the winner.

- Turf races moved to the main track will not be counted.

- Each contestant will be responsible for keeping track of his own score, but should monitor his opponents' score for potential errors/cheating. Each contestant must post his totals at the conclusion of each week's races.

Stakes negotiable. Use of a middle man or alternating between who has to post first each week is also up for debate. Not sure what to do about scratches. Other suggestions for how to tweak the rules are welcome.

[geeker2]

or you could just roshambo......

[herkhorse]

lets not hide this gem in here, and can the rest of us wager on the outcome?

..by the way what happened to Dahoss?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

lets not hide this gem in here, and can the rest of us wager on the outcome?

..by the way what happened to Dahoss?

Hossy taking an Intenet leave of absence/sabbatical...

[Kasept]

As I've stated many times, I generally don't care for these throw-downs, and no one has to 'leave the Internet forever' as far as the administration here goes towards the result. But, the occasional Thunderdome seems to always generate some laughs. Please keep this civil...

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by Kasept

As I've stated many times, I generally don't care for these throw-downs, and no one has to 'leave the Internet forever' as far as the administration here goes towards the result. But, the occasional Thunderdome seems to always generate some laughs. Please keep this civil...

!!

So does this mean Morty can come back?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Here's what I propose:

- $2 Win/Place wagers on all U.S. graded stakes races that occur on Saturdays, Grade 1 races that occur on ANY day of the week in the U.S. and Canada, and ALL Breeders' Cup races. The contest races for a given week must be listed and established prior to posting picks so that there is no confusion (i.e. somebody might miss an obscure G3 at an obscure track otherwise). The contestant with the most profit (or smallest loss) through the Breeders' Cup Classic is the winner.

- Turf races moved to the main track will not be counted.

- Each contestant will be responsible for keeping track of his own score, but should monitor his opponents' score for potential errors/cheating. Each contestant must post his totals at the conclusion of each week's races.

Stakes negotiable. Use of a middle man or alternating between who has to post first each week is also up for debate. Not sure what to do about scratches. Other suggestions for how to tweak the rules are welcome.

Both you guys are on the ball and usually know who is scratching out of what races. I think that if you make a selection and he/she scratches out before the start of the card and you don't alter the pick then you are just out of luck. But if it the scratch should happen after the card starts (i.e. at the gate), then that race is null and void.
Also if the BC is the finale of this contest, those picks should be Pm'd and posted by a third party. This way NEITHER side has an advantage.
Good Luck to both of you.

[hockey2315]

The problem is that gate scratches don't show up differently on charts than early scratches.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

The problem is that gate scratches don't show up differently on charts than early scratches.

How about a main pick and an one and only one alternate to be used if the main pick scratches. I think whomever is the leader should post their picks first(by noon raceday). We don't want another situation where the leader simply picks the same horses as we saw in our prior contest. Even with this format I can forsee many instances when the picks will be the same. Good Luck... Should be fun

http://www.ntra.com/races_index.aspx?id=3


6/27/2009 Mother Goose S. I 9 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 King Edward S. II 9 Furlongs (T) 3+ Woodbine 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Boiling Springs S. III 8.5 Furlongs (T) 3 Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Debutante S. III 6 Furlongs 2 Churchill Downs 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Cornhusker H. II 9 Furlongs 3+ Prairie Meadows 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Vanity H. I 9 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a main pick and an one and only one alternate to be used if the main pick scratches. I think whomever is the leader should post their picks first(by noon raceday). We don't want another situation where the leader simply picks the same horses as we saw in our prior contest. Even with this format I can forsee many instances when the picks will be the same. Good Luck... Should be fun

http://www.ntra.com/races_index.aspx?id=3


6/27/2009 Mother Goose S. I 9 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 King Edward S. II 9 Furlongs (T) 3+ Woodbine 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Boiling Springs S. III 8.5 Furlongs (T) 3 Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Debutante S. III 6 Furlongs 2 Churchill Downs 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Cornhusker H. II 9 Furlongs 3+ Prairie Meadows 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Vanity H. I 9 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

I still think there's a potentially exploitable flaw with someone posting their picks first each week, but I guess there's no better way. The alternate thing for scratches will probably be extra work, but once again I guess we don't have a choice. The King Edward doesn't qualify under the conditions I originally listed, but I guess we can add all graded stakes in Canada too if you really want. Are we going to have a prize/something at stake? Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.

ello elle.

As I said.. No one has to leave anywhere. I'd prefer $100 wagers in these contests with proceed to TRF or ReRun or Anna House or racing charity of winner's choice.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I still think there's a potentially exploitable flaw with someone posting their picks first each week, but I guess there's no better way. The alternate thing for scratches will probably be extra work, but once again I guess we don't have a choice. The King Edward doesn't qualify under the conditions I originally listed, but I guess we can add all graded stakes in Canada too if you really want. Are we going to have a prize/something at stake? Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.

Sorry I didn't review your qualifications closely... I'm ok with ditching the King Edward... No need for anyone to leave town... Since I see you are in your early 20's stakes maybe a bit harder to come by. We can play for honor or take Steve up on his idea of a donation to an Equine charity...