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Old 12-21-2009, 02:22 PM
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Arrow Track Net/Mid-Atlantic GAIN AGREEMENT..

No deal in place yet to simulcast Santa Anita to the Meadowlands...from Sam McKee, Director of Simulcasting.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:26 PM
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No deal in place yet to simulcast Santa Anita to the Meadowlands...from Sam McKee, Director of Simulcasting.
Add this to Fairgrounds and Churchill... Really sad going into the Derby Prep season...
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:06 PM
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No deal in place yet to simulcast Santa Anita to the Meadowlands...from Sam McKee, Director of Simulcasting.

You don't want to watch races run on that evil rubber. Do you?
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:55 PM
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You don't want to watch races run on that evil rubber. Do you?
i don't really like betting them plus 4 or 5 horses per race. if they didn't simulcast it here i would not miss it!
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:43 PM
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The Mid-Atlantic group is increasingly going to be without signals as they obstinately refuse to move off the lowball number they pay the Hosts. FG, CD, and now Santa Anita and Gulfstream then Oaklawn and Golden Gate by mid-January.

They are 100% in the wrong with their position, and hopefully their customers will begin to complain and get them to move.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:59 PM
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Several major winter tracks may not be available to bettors on TVG unless TVG and TrackNet settle a lawsuit by Christmas Day.
http://drf.com/news/article/109676.html
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:12 PM
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horse racing is dying a slow and painful death.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:19 PM
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The Mid-Atlantic group is increasingly going to be without signals as they obstinately refuse to move off the lowball number they pay the Hosts. FG, CD, and now Santa Anita and Gulfstream then Oaklawn and Golden Gate by mid-January.

They are 100% in the wrong with their position, and hopefully their customers will begin to complain and get them to move.
Any chance on interviewing someone from Mid Atlantic Group on ATR? Just make believe they will be voting for Zenyetta as HOY
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:22 PM
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:50 PM
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Any chance on interviewing someone from Mid Atlantic Group on ATR? Just make believe they will be voting for Zenyetta as HOY
The guy from Mid-Atlantic is Marty Lieberman. He might come on. They're being ridiculous considering they haven't taken any increases in at least 4 years on the big track signals in question.
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:51 PM
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The Mid-Atlantic group is increasingly going to be without signals as they obstinately refuse to move off the lowball number they pay the Hosts. FG, CD, and now Santa Anita and Gulfstream then Oaklawn and Golden Gate by mid-January.

They are 100% in the wrong with their position, and hopefully their customers will begin to complain and get them to move.
I wrote to the email addy for my 4Njbets account twice before I finally got a BS response
"hi thank you for your email and we understand your frustration. The
mid-atlantic cooperative is currently in negotiations with track net
media to settle the dispute. Again its not just us not offering it its
the mid-atlantic region thank you
"

I could not find an email address directly for Dennis Dowd but today sent an email to him thru the NJSEA public relations email address.

It's extremely frustrating that we can't bet thru other sites from home and can't even travel drive 10 minutes over to Monmouth Park or 30 minutes up to Favorites in Woodbridge.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:00 PM
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Why in the hell can I not bet, Santa Anita, Fair Grounds, and now they are saying Gulfstream.

Living close to three States, New Jersey, Delaware and Phillly I can not bet any of these three tracks at their OTB. I sure in the hell don't want to hear anything about their handle being down.

Maybe when ATR comes back Steve can get to the bottom of this Bull **** !
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:27 PM
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Default Ongoing Track Net/Mid-Atlantic impasse

was headed to ne philly turf club to bet the opening day SA card but read about this impasse , first no FG and CD now SA and Gulfstream , then maybe oaklawn too, its going to be a long winter in philly, i better sharpen my tampa bay and chalietown capping
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:44 PM
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OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:01 PM
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Really good conversation on At The Races today about this topic with a caller from New Jersey. You can probably hear it by pulling up the archives...it was in the 3rd hour.
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:20 AM
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OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?
If you think this is just a Philly Park problem, you are mistaken. And there is nothing to say you can't open a different wagering account if you live near Philly Park. I am a very happy TwinSpires account holder and opened the account when I used to live ten minutes from Philly Park.
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Old 01-22-2010, 07:32 AM
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OK -- so far Philly Park Phonebet bettors weren't able to bet the Churchill fall meeting, Fairgrounds, Santa Anita and now Gulfstream. By law, we can't legally open a different wagering account if we live near Pha Park. Pha Park's dumped their on-air commentators. They obviously don't care about their Phone Bet patrons now that they have the lucrative slots parlor. No one responds to letters of complaint.

This situation sucks. In the not too distant past, Pha Park had the premier phone bet account - great on-air personalites and efficient operators to take bets. They made a fortune from this system. Now their patrons can't wager on the nation's best cards. We can't bet/follow the triple crown trail.

Will this ever be rectified?
Absolutely true. Philly Park is now "Philadelphia Park Casino and Racetrack". The word racetrack doesn't even come first anymore! That was also too long I guess as now I just see "PARX" billboards sitting out there. They can absolutely not care less about us, the horseplayer. I try to go to Delaware Park more often since I am closer to there anyway, but unfortunately they are still affected by the MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute.

My frustration is boiling over. I'm going to burst a blood vessel.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:10 AM
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OK, I know we've been talking about this MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute forever, unfortunately, but being in the Mid-Atlantic region there's not much else for me to focus on.

I was trying to determine exactly when the dispute started, and saw that the agreement that secured the Fairgrounds signal expired on 10/31/2009. So am I right that this dispute has been continuing for 83 days?

Eighty three days of getting reduced handle...what amazing business acumen our guys at MidAtlantic have! They should go work for AIG.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:18 AM
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OK, I know we've been talking about this MidAtlantic/TrackNet dispute forever, unfortunately, but being in the Mid-Atlantic region there's not much else for me to focus on.

I was trying to determine exactly when the dispute started, and saw that the agreement that secured the Fairgrounds signal expired on 10/31/2009. So am I right that this dispute has been continuing for 83 days?

Eighty three days of getting reduced handle...what amazing business acumen our guys at MidAtlantic have! They should go work for AIG.
Wait until we can't bet the derby.. Amazing that players from New Jersey do not even have an option to open a twinspires, express bet, tvg account. NJ Bets has an absolute monopoly. I wonder how many lawmakers are getting a piece of the NJ Bets action. Obviously the FTC couldn't give a **** about horse players as they let this monopoly exist.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:24 AM
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A rough counting with a calendar shows we are now 98 days from the Derby. So we expect the hard-headed attitude to evaporate in another 90 or so days when they've been entrenched for the first 83?

Then the figures will come out on handle and expenses and, surprise surprise, they will have a huge loss for the year. They will blame the unpopularity of racing and whatever deal they ultimately do make with TrackNet.
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