yankee trade

[gales0678]

who is going to play LF now ? all for a fomrer pitcher that stunk in ny

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

who is going to play LF now ? all for a fomrer pitcher that stunk in ny

Why don't you wait one game like you did with Texieria before claiming the trade is a bust.

[Cannon Shell]

Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.

LF who plays chuck?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

LF who plays chuck?

It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.

vasquez stunk in his 1st tour , tell me why he will be good in the bronx now

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.

Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.

Very nice analysis

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.

pitching in the bronx is not for everyone , he has already shown that it's not really for him

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Dodgers should 1st trade Broxton for a starting pitcher, and then sign Valverde to close games. They can't go into the season with Broxton as the closer. All the other players know he will choke in the post. There is not enough mystery involved to get them motivated to make the post.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by gales0678

pitching in the bronx is not for everyone , he has already shown that it's not really for him

Wrong! He was an all-star as a Yankee. He failed in the 2nd half with many thinking it was injury, maybe just mechanics.

But at Yankee stadium that year. He had a 9-4 record with a 4.13 ERA. What's more impressive is that he only allowed 1.09 base runners per inning in front of New Yorkers. 2004 was 6 years ago. He's much better mentally now than then.

[Cannon Shell]

. Arodys Vizcaino, RHP
DOB: 11/13/90
Height/Weight: 6-0/189
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Dominican Republic, 2007
2009 Stats: 2.13 ERA (42.1-34-15-52) at Short-season (10 G)
Last Year’s Ranking: 5

Year in Review: The high-ceiling Dominican dominated the much older hitters of the New York-Penn League.
The Good: Vizcaino's combination of stuff and refinement is rarely found in a teenager. His clean arm action leads to effortless 92-94 mph fastballs that get up to 97 when he reaches back for a bit more, while his smooth mechanics allow him to harness his pitches and pound the strike zone. His power curveball already grades out as big-league average with the projection of becoming a true wipeout offering.
The Bad: Vizcaino is a touch undersized, which limits his projection, although his leg drive helps convince most that he can remain a starter. He telegraphs his changeup, but it's a flaw often found in young power arms. More than anything, he just needs experience.
Ephemera: Playing for Staten Island, 18 of Vizcaino's 52 strikeouts came in the second inning, where he faced just 37 hitters.
Perfect World Projection: Vizcaino's ceiling tops that of any pitcher in the system, by a significant margin. It will take time, but the skills are there for him to become an All-Star starter.
Path to the Big Leagues: Vizcaino is at least three years away from the big leagues, but the Yankees have a recent history of struggling with the development of young pitchers once they reach the majors.
Timetable: Vizcaino will make his much-anticipated full-season debut at Low-A Charleston in 2010.