obama demands vote on health care..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

lol..i demand we vote on the new trimmed down yet not republican line- item
approved plan..good luck..what a waste of time it all is..politics suck.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

lol..i demand we vote on the new trimmed down yet not republican line- item
approved plan..good luck..what a waste of time it all is..politics suck.

http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/re...ARSDCCLM_UNEWS

end game is right..no end to it game.

[Riot]

The Senate GOP leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said a decision by Democrats to invoke rules that bar filibusters would be "met with outrage" by the public.

I tried to e-mail Mitch McConnell today, to tell him exactly where my "outrage" lies. It's certainly not where he thinks.

His contact website off .gov was down, I suspect due to complaints about Jim Bunning. So I had to go through his KY site. Told him what I thought of GOP filibusters over the past year

[witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by Riot

Told him what I thought of GOP filibusters over the past year

I am guessing you favored the filibuster.

[Riot]

Oh, yeah. I love it when I pay my elected officials for doing nothing

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, yeah. I love it when I pay my elected officials for doing nothing

no man's property is safe while congress is in session

someone somewhere said it better than me but I'm not going to look it up

This is a strategory move to get re-elected.

[Danzig]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ctions_opinion

Mr. Obama's fiscal assertions are possible only because of the fraudulent accounting and budget gimmicks that Democrats spent months calibrating. Readers can find the gory details in Mr. Ryan's pre-emptive rebuttal nearby, though one of the most egregious deceptions is that the bill counts 10 years of taxes but only six years of spending.

The real cost over a decade is about $2.3 trillion on paper, Mr. Ryan estimates, and even that is a lowball estimate considering how many people will flood to "free" health care and how many businesses will be induced to drop coverage. Mr. Obama claimed yesterday that the plan will cost "about $100 billion per year," but in fact the costs ramp up each year the program exists. The far more likely deficits are $460 billion over the first 10 years, and $1.4 trillion over the next 10.

Next month Medicare physician payments are scheduled to be cut by 22% and deeper thereafter, though Congress is sure to postpone the reductions as it always does. Failing to account for this inevitability takes nearly a quarter-trillion dollars off the ObamaCare books and by itself wipes out the "savings" that the White House continues to take credit for.

[Danzig]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...731862750.html


The goal is to permanently expand the American entitlement state with a vast apparatus of subsidies and regulations while the political window is still (barely) open, regardless of the consequences or the overwhelming popular condemnation. As Mr. Obama fatalistically said after his health summit, if voters don't like it, "then that's what elections are for."

[Danzig]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obamas....html?x=0&.v=1


Now the 40-year-old Janesville, Wis., native is emerging as the leading GOP voice on economic policy, thanks to his detailed blueprint for solving what both Democrats and Republicans agree is a perilous fiscal future. (How bad is America's financial picture? The President's budget for 2011 forecasts deficits running at more than $1 trillion, or an unsustainable 4.2% of GDP, in 2020 -- and that assumes low unemployment and decent growth of the economy.)

Ryan calls his proposal, published in January, the Roadmap for America's Future. It's a remarkably comprehensive, daring manifesto that tackles every part of the budget on a presidential scale, from Social Security to tax policy to health-care reform.

His prescription for health care is radical: Ryan would eliminate the exclusion allowing companies to lavish on employees tax-free benefits and give the tax breaks to the workers themselves through a rebate of $5,700 a family, or a check for that amount if they don't pay taxes.

"The problem with both Medicare and private plans is the third-party-payer system," says Ryan. "Consumers, spending their own money, will drive down prices." Ryan proposes a classic flat-tax solution: Americans could choose between using today's byzantine rules and a simplified, post-card model with two rates, 10% and 25%. Believe it or not, the simplified system would disallow mortgage and other deductions.

In February the Congressional Budget Office analyzed Ryan's road map -- and confirmed that it produced the falling deficits and balanced budgets that Ryan promises. "By proposing cuts in benefits, Paul Ryan is demonstrating the nature of the solution that must occur," former Fed chief Alan Greenspan told Fortune. "You can't close the gap with tax increases alone, and if you try to do it, you slow growth and reduce future tax receipts."

[randallscott35]

Even if they use recon for this it won't stand up in court. It's over on this, they don't get it. Recon is to be used for budget issues, this isn't one, it will not stand up. Not a chance....Barack should be worried about the economy and nothing else.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obamas....html?x=0&.v=1


Now the 40-year-old Janesville, Wis., native is emerging as the leading GOP voice on economic policy, thanks to his detailed blueprint for solving what both Democrats and Republicans agree is a perilous fiscal future. (How bad is America's financial picture? The President's budget for 2011 forecasts deficits running at more than $1 trillion, or an unsustainable 4.2% of GDP, in 2020 -- and that assumes low unemployment and decent growth of the economy.)

Ryan calls his proposal, published in January, the Roadmap for America's Future. It's a remarkably comprehensive, daring manifesto that tackles every part of the budget on a presidential scale, from Social Security to tax policy to health-care reform.

His prescription for health care is radical: Ryan would eliminate the exclusion allowing companies to lavish on employees tax-free benefits and give the tax breaks to the workers themselves through a rebate of $5,700 a family, or a check for that amount if they don't pay taxes.

"The problem with both Medicare and private plans is the third-party-payer system," says Ryan. "Consumers, spending their own money, will drive down prices." Ryan proposes a classic flat-tax solution: Americans could choose between using today's byzantine rules and a simplified, post-card model with two rates, 10% and 25%. Believe it or not, the simplified system would disallow mortgage and other deductions.
In February the Congressional Budget Office analyzed Ryan's road map -- and confirmed that it produced the falling deficits and balanced budgets that Ryan promises. "By proposing cuts in benefits, Paul Ryan is demonstrating the nature of the solution that must occur," former Fed chief Alan Greenspan told Fortune. "You can't close the gap with tax increases alone, and if you try to do it, you slow growth and reduce future tax receipts."

I actually like Ryan. A little snarky at times but I like that he backs up what he says with numbers.

The problem with a flat tax is that it will destroy the housing market when it is barely staying afloat as is.