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Old 03-16-2010, 04:03 PM
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Default Woodard Double Positive

I'm sure its just a lab mix-up.

http://drf.com/news/article/111479.html
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:33 PM
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Hmmm...I wondered why he went from roughly a 8% in 2006-2008 to over 30% in 2009.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:16 PM
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Hmmm...I wondered why he went from roughly a 8% in 2006-2008 to over 30% in 2009.
Logic would say that his main owner started spending money again buying and claiming cheap horses but this time has decided to concentrate on two of the worst circuits in America?

Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.

It isnt hard to win races (especially at tracks where the competition is so feeble) if you are willing to lose a lot of money.


Every trainer in America uses those meds.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:42 PM
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Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.
14% at SA
42% at Charles Town
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:56 PM
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14% at SA
42% at Charles Town
I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:01 PM
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I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.
So you can lose money losing a races or you can lose money winning races..Well I choose option B who needs to lose and lose
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:54 PM
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I cant knock a guy for running horses at CT. At least the purse levels are that of a B level track. Beulah is a tragic joke.
In the last week or two I've been seeing O'Neill on almost every card. He ships the pigs that can't win at Philly or Penn to CT and usually cashes a check. No idea why he would even bother with Beulah.

He has a maiden tomorrow that he keeps dropping off good performances that should win for fun if the duct tape holds together and the favorite in the finale that will likely win if the Ralph Comi Jr juice monster doesn't draw in.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:22 PM
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Logic would say that his main owner started spending money again buying and claiming cheap horses but this time has decided to concentrate on two of the worst circuits in America?

Doug O'Neil hasn't missed this trick as he has become a regular at Beulah.

It isnt hard to win races (especially at tracks where the competition is so feeble) if you are willing to lose a lot of money.


Every trainer in America uses those meds.
Woodard is a joke...If he cheats it is a Vet accident...because he is not calling the shots.
He is exhibit A, that a high win % does not exactly mean a sharp trainer.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:31 PM
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Woodard is a joke...If he cheats it is a Vet accident...because he is not calling the shots.
He is exhibit A, that a high win % does not exactly mean a sharp trainer.
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:02 PM
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[quote=Cannon Shell]
Every trainer in America uses those meds.[/

You said that right We use those 2 drugs Practically everyday But we are on the Farm
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:51 PM
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Jerry Hollendorfer is currently 43-for-85 at Portland Meadows current meet. His $2 ROI is just $1.96 ... which is way better than takeout ... but c'mon ... how the hell can you win over 50% of your races from that big of a sample and not be profitable?

It's Hollendorfer's 2nd season at Portland Meadows - at last years winter meet he struggled mightily to a 25-for-62 (40% wins) record .. his ROI was $1.63 .. which is about equal to takeout.

That begs the question ... is it easier to win at Portland or Beulah? ..

At the 2008 Beu meet ... Hollendorfer struggled badly .. winning just 8 of 30 starts (26% wins) with a terrible $0.74 ROI.
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I don't know but Hollendorfer had a horse at Portland on Monday I believe. It's last line read "pulled up lame" or something like that from a race like only 2 weeks before. Of course it won for fun.
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