Dog Fight Videos Are Free Speech

[randallscott35]

Not to me. Gross.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/20/dog.fight.videos/

[brianwspencer]

I'm simultaneously disgusted by the idea of the videos and supportive of the court's decision. The two aren't mutually exclusive ideas to me.

[Princess Doreen]

Perhaps if enough people watch these videos, they'll realize how heinous the sport is and how despicable the people who involve themselves in it deserve a special circle in hell when they die.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Perhaps if enough people watch these videos, they'll realize how heinous the sport is and how despicable the people who involve themselves in it deserve a special circle in hell when they die.

I agree with you %1000 on this one. These people who have these beautiful animals fight are a menace to society.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Perhaps if enough people watch these videos, they'll realize how heinous the sport is and how despicable the people who involve themselves in it deserve a special circle in hell when they die.

1000% agree.

I could never imagine putting my precious and beautiful dog, Honey Ryder, in a fight for her life and those that do are truly despicable.

[Princess Doreen]

It's not just about the dogs who do the fighting, it's about the hundreds of dogs that are stolen off people's property and used as test dogs to get the fighting dogs to fight and kill.

Disgusting, and the punishment these people get doesn't fit their crime. I'd like to see a video made whereby one of these scumbuckets get in there and fight against one of those dogs buck bare naked and no weapons.

That's what I'd call freedom of speech.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm simultaneously disgusted by the idea of the videos and supportive of the court's decision. The two aren't mutually exclusive ideas to me.

you say exactly what i was thinking.
they took on the westboro case-i don't imagine they'll rule the way many want them to there either. i find those people despicable, but i don't see how the court can't rule they're entitled to free speech.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you say exactly what i was thinking.
they took on the westboro case-i don't imagine they'll rule the way many want them to there either. i find those people despicable, but i don't see how the court can't rule they're entitled to free speech.

I really loaaaaathe the Westboro folks...but I'm not particularly fond of the idea of them losing any right to do what they do, no matter how despicable their message may be. There is really almost no time I won't err on the side of free speech. It doesn't mean it can't have social consequences, ie people saying things like that losing their jobs (in other instances), but I'm almost universally on the side of a person's right to say it in the first place.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I really loaaaaathe the Westboro folks...but I'm not particularly fond of the idea of them losing any right to do what they do, no matter how despicable their message may be. There is really almost no time I won't err on the side of free speech. It doesn't mean it can't have social consequences, ie people saying things like that losing their jobs (in other instances), but I'm almost universally on the side of a person's right to say it in the first place.

i was reading the other day that the irs has investigated westboro, but they found the only property they could possibly tax was an old van-if it was ruled that westboro shouldn't be non-tax.. many think that group is a hate group, not a church...
i find their actions to be so far beyond objectionable, they are disgusting. but i don't see how they can be stopped either.

[Merlinsky]

When I first read the article on CNN, I looked at the comments and people seemed to be pretty clueless about the law and what's involved in free speech if they really thought about it. I gotta stop doing that, it just makes me angry. The statute would criminalize people trying to use these videos to attack the situation, not to encourage it. I bet PETA has it available for viewing. Much as I'd love for them to get yelled at for something, this ain't it.

The dog fighting videos aren't like pedophilia videos. Those inclined to do this don't get off on watching the videos per se, they might learn more about how to do it, but they kinda wanna be there in person.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

westboro, .... but i don't see how they can be stopped either.

They can be stopped by ignoring them. A bit difficult to do where they physically inject themselves, surely. But, picture a Klu Klux Klan rally, walking downtown somewhere, and nobody, but nobody, even bothers to attend to heckle, or even watch. Not much fun to be an agitator all alone, with nobody to agitate.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm simultaneously disgusted by the idea of the videos and supportive of the court's decision. The two aren't mutually exclusive ideas to me.

Brian -- I agree on both counts.