11/25-26 (CD): Falls City H. (G2); Clark H. (G1)

[Kasept]

11th (4:24) Falls City H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Dundalk Dust Bridgmohan S X 114 LA
2 Third Dawn Desormeaux K J 118 LA
3 Striking Dancer Leparoux J R 117 LA
4 Distinctive Dixie Albarado R J 120 LA
5 High Quail Castanon J L 115 LA
6 Ravi's Song Mena M 114 L

[tjfla]

FRIDAY 11th (5:42) Clark H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Dubious Miss Albarado R J 116 L
2 Apart Gomez G K 118 LA
3 Successful Dan Leparoux J R 121 L
4 Giant Oak Bridgmohan S X 115 LA
5 Redding Colliery Napravnik A R 117 LA
6 Brass Hat Farina T 116 L
7 Stately Victor Lebron V 116 LA
8 Win Willy Berry M C 116 LA
9 Regal Ransom Lenclud F 116 L
10 Demarcation Desormeaux K J 116 LA
11 Duke of Mischief Coa E M 116 L

[hockey2315]

Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

[randallscott35]

Interesting clark

[my miss storm cat]

I haven't seen pp's yet or anything but, no matter who I play here, I'll be rooting for Brass Hat.

[South Beach Luv]

Wondering if it was the owner or trainer that took Jesse Campbell off Apart?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

Yes he will be. You have Breeders Cup horses running. Apart and SD, Apart will def be the chalk. SD beat the Warrior over the track.
I think Redding is around 6-1.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

I don't think he'll be over 4-1. He strung the field out 20-25 lengths at Hawthorne for most of the race. The deep track made the pace not seem as fast as it actually was.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by JJP

I don't think he'll be over 4-1. He strung the field out 20-25 lengths at Hawthorne for most of the race. The deep track made the pace not seem as fast as it actually was.

A lot of these horses ALWAYS TAKE $. RC will be in the 5-1 to 6-1 range, and is the most likey winner of this race. Its him and Apart..... Then everyone else.

[Sightseek]

I think there was more bumping from start to finish than the Derby.

[Sightseek]

Ick. Giant Oak is a Grade 1 winner.

Redding Collary was roughed at start too.

[Seattleallstar]

and i was off doing Black Friday bullshit, arghh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JJP]

Memo to Rose Napravnik:

IF McLaughlin lets you ride that horse again, do not try to rate him. If you let him roll, he would've avoided all that trouble. What was the opening quarter? 24 4/5??

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by JJP

Memo to Rose Napravnik:

IF McLaughlin lets you ride that horse again, do not try to rate him. If you let him roll, he would've avoided all that trouble. What was the opening quarter? 24 4/5??

Had he been rolling early he would have finished farther back then he did.

[JJP]

I'm not sure how you are coming to that conclusion. He set a very fast pace (adjusted) in the Hawthorne Gold Cup and still had enough left to outfinish Giant Oak. Now what was he? 1-2 lengths ahead of Giant Oak on the backstretch? What was the half in the Clark, 48 and change? 49?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by JJP

I'm not sure how you are coming to that conclusion. He set a very fast pace (adjusted) in the Hawthorne Gold Cup and still had enough left to outfinish Giant Oak. Now what was he? 1-2 lengths ahead of Giant Oak on the backstretch? What was the half in the Clark, 48 and change? 49?

While I agree that he should have been closer, the race collapsed and there's no guarantee he would've stayed on.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Had he been rolling early he would have finished farther back then he did.

He held off Giant Oak with ease at 10 furlongs last time out ... at 9fs it would have been a piece of cake.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He held off Giant Oak with ease at 10 furlongs last time out ... at 9fs it would have been a piece of cake.

With ease? Hyperbole at it's finest.

Face it, Reading Colliery just isn't as good as many think he is. he wasn't winning under any scenario today and would have been gobbled up by Successful Dan had he been on the muscle throughout.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by JJP

Memo to Rose Napravnik:

IF McLaughlin lets you ride that horse again, do not try to rate him. If you let him roll, he would've avoided all that trouble. What was the opening quarter? 24 4/5??

It's Rosie ... and why bother with memo's to pinheads?

There was no pace at all on paper - other than the hopeless Regal Ransom - and she decides to reach up and grab a horse coming out of a race where he earned an absolutely supersonic pace figure and beat Giant Oak - who got the pace setup of a lifetime and could only manage 2nd.

It was a clever change of tactics - take away a horses best weapon - so you can get Knocked sideways around the first turn while eye balling other horses. I realize the bump on the far turn was what led to the DQ ... but that was the best thing that happened to Rosie the whole race.

Everytime Redding Collery doesn't run a very big pace figure - he runs like dogsh!t. He had a perfectly clean trip at Monmouth - but Duke of Mishchief absolutely toyed with him in a cleanly run slow paced race.

I was telling people that I was going to be fuming if she doesn't have a two length lead on Regal Ransom through the first turn - I needed to be scraped off the floor when I saw her taking him back - keeping him wide - getting bounced around like a pin ball - and eye to eye with a pack of other horses while several lenghts off the leader behind a pokey pace.