Conspiracy theorists heads explode - full birth certificate released

[Riot]

Of course, the conspiracy theorists won't accept even this, I'm sure.

It does point out what an outright liar Donald Trump is (regarding "what his investigators have found" in Hawaii), and that's a good deed.



C-span also has the following documents as released by the White House at the press conference today: press secretaries release, Presidents authorization for lawyers to get certificate, lawyers request to Hawaii, Hawaii' response.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

[randallscott35]

Great. Now we can just hope he isn't reelected.

[Riot]

Sorry, Antitrust, I didn't see you'd already posted this. Perhaps the threads can be merged.

[Antitrust32]

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

I hope now that it's out he can start acting in America's interest as a natural born citizen should, as opposed to a frenchmen tossing hankies around

[somerfrost]

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

[Riot]

I just went and read RedState and Drudge to read the comments - what hysteria

Nearly all the comments are declaring that the document is a fake (of course!), or that the birther issue was secretly started and maintained by left wing extremists in order to paint the innocent right as racists.

[AeWingnut]

obvious forgery

[Patrick333]

I wonder why it took so long to release it. It's been an issue since his campaign.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

I wonder why it took so long to release it. It's been an issue since his campaign.

Wow, yeah. Aside from having to get special permission from the state for the original hard copy (existence seen and verified multiple times by a variety of people) to be dug out and an official facsimile be released (see the link to letters from the WH to the state earlier in the thread) because the state does not release copies of that; there is a HUGE difference between the Official Certificate of Live Birth that serves as "prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" released during the campaign in 2008 (see in the Pulitzer Prize winning coverage of this by Politifact) - and what was released today HUGE difference.

[lord007]

Forget the birth certificate why was his social security card isuued in CT......???..hmmm

[Riot]

Hysterically funny.

Congratulations, America, Donald Trump Is the Boss of You
Posted by James Poniewozik

The longform certificate. Get out your magnifying glasses and Photoshop, Internet!

Today, with a precarious economy, rising gas prices and three wars under way, the President of the United States of America held a press conference to announce the release of his original birth certificate, to prove that he is eligible to hold his office and quell a controversy fomented by a reality-show judge who by some polls is the leading candidate to oppose him in the 2012 election.

[Pause to allow those readers, who so desire, to kill themselves.]

The release of the certificate—shockingly!—revealed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, in 1961, as a human baby. It, and the subsequent press conference, drew saturation coverage from cable news. But not before Apprentice boss Donald Trump held a press conference in New Hampshire on the appearance of the birth certificate he declared "missing" on Anderson Cooper, um, two days ago. His humbled response: You're welcome, America!

Trump's remarks literally began, "I am very proud of myself." Because of course he is. Because who wouldn't be proud to have cynically embraced a toxic nutjob theory, on the basis of no good evidence, questioning the President's legitimacy, then having his suspicions shown to be an Al Capone's vault? Who wouldn't be proud to have turned himself from a national punchline into a national punchline with a shot at a Presidential nomination, through sheer, up-by-the-bootstraps pandering to Internet conspiracists? That takes talent, folks!

Obama, for his part, gave a brief speech that, in the most tactful terms possible, amounted to: Jesus Christ, America. OK, I paraphrase. The President noted that, while he has trouble getting TV networks to break in for coverage of policy announcements, they scrambled out for a birth-certificate announcement like it was a declaration of nuclear war. "We've got better things to do," he said. "I've got better things to do." And he hoped that the country, and the political press, would stop being distracted by "carnival barkers."

Oh, Mr. President: the carnival has barely pitched its tent. Let us count the ways in which it is not over:

* Conspiracists do not believe conspiracies because of evidence. They believe because they want to believe. Whatever subaltern message the birther theories actually represented—Obama is dishonest, Obama is alien, Obama is not one of us—those are not going away because of some silly fact. Expect the forwarded chain e-mail from your cranky uncle any day now, thoroughly documenting how the so-called "longform" birth certificate was not in fact long enough, was photoshopped, does not stand up to magnification, was planted in the files by ACORN or does in fact represent the birth of some baby named Barack Obama, who was abducted shortly after Earth birth and replaced with a tiny cyborg created by gay Muslim communists.

* A corollary: Facts do not dispel conspiracy theories. Facts are raw material for future counter-theories.

* Conspiracies are fungible. OK, the birth certificate is out there—whatever. What about Obama's academic records? Sure enough, Trump, in his own press conference, moved on to asking about those, as part of the argument that Obama was a poor student who didn't belong in the Ivy League. Which may not have anything to do with policy, or the economy, or the actual job the the U.S. citizen elected President is doing. No matter: the sub-messages—Obama is dishonest, Obama is a usurper, Obama is an affirmative-action baby—are what matter.

* The birth certificate controversy was all Obama's fault, anyway! No, seriously: this is an actual meme now. Why did he wait so long? Why did he let this become an issue? Why, Mr. President, did you force us to act like paranoid wackjobs for three years? Expect commentators to demand answers.

In short, the carnival will keep barking. Believers will keep believing. And be sure to tune in for the exciting finale of Celebrity Apprentice! You lucky, lucky country!

Read more: http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2011/0...#ixzz1KlEmlfPJ