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Old 08-27-2011, 02:35 PM
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Rick Scott’s Drug Law Isn’t Saving Florida Much Money

When Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) signed the law requiring welfare recipients to pass annual drug tests to collect benefits, he justified the likely unconstitutional law by saying it would save the state money by keeping drug users from using public money to subsidize their drug habits.

Drug use, Scott claimed, was higher among welfare recipients than among the rest of the population.

Preliminary results from the state’s first round of testing, however, has seemingly proven both of those claims false.

Only 2 percent of welfare recipients failed drug tests, meaning the state must reimburse the cost of the $30 drug tests to the 96 percent of recipients who passed drug tests (two percent did not take the tests).

Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.

The state also has to pay for defense of the law.

The ACLU is still considering a lawsuit challenging the law’s constitutionality, Newton said. If the ACLU or anyone else were to challenge the law, the lawsuit would likely succeed.

As for Scott’s second claim, that drug use is higher among welfare recipients, the test results also show that to be false.

While only 2 percent of welfare recipients failed drug tests, a 2008 study by the Office of National Drug Control Policy found that approximately 8 percent of Floridians age 12 and up had used illegal drugs in the last month, and 9.69 percent had smoked marijuana in the last year.

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Old 08-27-2011, 05:56 PM
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might have been a good idea in theory...but unless its a random test, its not going to catch many. everyone is aware of how to defeat those tests...
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:09 PM
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Or these people applying for welfare just can't afford the drugs the regular population can.

Did you know that Gov. Scott owned (he put them in his wifes name when he was elected, she still owns them) a number of private walk-in clinics that does drug testing?

Good thing he got a law passed for thousand of new drug tests per year in Florida.

I think I agree with Gov. Scott, that our tax dollars should not be used to support drug use. So every elected official in Florida should be drug tested every three months.

The Republican Party 2011. Blaming it all on the "poors", and wasting money right and left with their reckless, stupid social engineering programs. Oh, yeah, pushed by ALEC.
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good idea, anyone receiving tax money in any fshion should be tested. cops, firemen, military already are.
and im not surprised about the labs, not when judges are affiliated with juvie facilities that they then sentence kids to as punishment.
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good idea, anyone receiving tax money in any fshion should be tested. cops, firemen, military already are.
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only 2% of welfare recipients in Florida using drugs is about as likely as Super Trooper making the horse racing Hall of Fame.
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:28 PM
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only 2% of welfare recipients in Florida using drugs is about as likely as Super Trooper making the horse racing Hall of Fame.
That's right. Don't let measured facts and reality get in the way of your assumptions
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I wish I had know how well these people are doing before I went to Price Chopper in Albany yesterday. I got behind some 300 lb member of a popular minority who was in the express line with at least 50 items and then paid for it with her welfare card.
You can say I was a little pissed even before she waddled out to her nice car that just happenned to be parked in a handicapped spot even though she didn't have a decal or plate.
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I wish I had know how well these people are doing before I went to Price Chopper in Albany yesterday. I got behind some 300 lb member of a popular minority who was in the express line with at least 50 items and then paid for it with her welfare card.
You can say I was a little pissed even before she waddled out to her nice car that just happenned to be parked in a handicapped spot even though she didn't have a decal or plate.
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I totally hate when someone that shouldn't parks in a handicap spot. What did she say when you called her out on it?
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I totally hate when someone that shouldn't parks in a handicap spot. What did she say when you called her out on it?
He's right..this NEVER happened before Obama became President and will stop once Rick Perry wins..oh wait..
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I wish I had know how well these people are doing before I went to Price Chopper in Albany yesterday. I got behind some 300 lb member of a popular minority who was in the express line with at least 50 items and then paid for it with her welfare card.
You can say I was a little pissed even before she waddled out to her nice car that just happenned to be parked in a handicapped spot even though she didn't have a decal or plate.
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