Dice

[Calzone Lord]

The 'Don't Pass' bet at the dice table is only a 1.4% takeout. And the Pass bet is like a 1.6% takeout and you can bet 10 times in the back at a 0.00% takeout after the first roll.

If you think about it --- the dice table is a great place to take your girlfriend or wife on a date.

Also... if you're going to bet on something just for the sake of betting on something and getting that action buzz ... why would you play anything else but the dice table? The house edge is laughably low. It's befudding walking around a casino and seeing only two dice tables going -- one at a $5 minimum and another a $10 min ... and yet you see all the other equally mindless games and stupid machines rocking and rolling.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The 'Don't Pass' bet at the dice table is only a 1.4% takeout. And the Pass bet is like a 1.6% takeout and you can bet 10 times in the back at a 0.00% takeout after the first roll.

If you think about it --- the dice table is a great place to take your girlfriend or wife on a date.

Also... if you're going to bet on something just for the sake of betting on something and getting that action buzz ... why would you play anything else but the dice table? The house edge is laughably low. It's befudding walking around a casino and seeing only two dice tables going -- one at a $5 minimum and another a $10 min ... and yet you see all the other equally mindless games and stupid machines rocking and rolling.

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

There is nothing like being on a hot crap table. It's freakin awesome. It literally draws the entire casino to it.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

There is nothing like being on a hot crap table. It's freakin awesome. It literally draws the entire casino to it.

I second that. It has happened to me a few times. It's pretty orgasmic.

[clyde]

Vegas Vets are found everywhere in today's society;they come in all shapes and sizes...differing views of the world around them...oddly dressed with various hat sizes..male/female, introvert/extrovert,sanitary worker/lawyer,gay/not gay.


One thing's for sure.














And I ain't gonna say it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

Pass line+Odds followed by Come bet plus Odds. That is all there is to it. People are very nervous about it though while the rubes throw in their sucker bets after each roll.
As far as the ladies go, it is a great place to enjoy someones company. Playing the way I play you are never going to get hurt and more often than not (about 70%) you will leave up. My wife loves it, the women I have met in Vegas that never payed all really love it. Great times and bar none the best thing in any casino. Only thing for me besides the books.

[clyde]

And this is why I did'un have to say it.






"Mommy!Mommy!I got an A in craps!!"


Of course, every Vegas Vet is fox smart and always wins...no one ever loses money.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by clyde

And this is why I did'un have to say it.






"Mommy!Mommy!I got an A in craps!!"


Of course, every Vegas Vet is fox smart and always wins...no one ever loses money.

~30% loss rate. Always lose it all. "Winning" for me means playing for two to four hours and leaving with more money than I show up with. Very rarely is it an 'A' performance.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Pass line+Odds followed by Come bet plus Odds. That is all there is to it. People are very nervous about it though while the rubes throw in their sucker bets after each roll.
As far as the ladies go, it is a great place to enjoy someones company. Playing the way I play you are never going to get hurt and more often than not (about 70%) you will leave up. My wife loves it, the women I have met in Vegas that never payed all really love it. Great times and bar none the best thing in any casino. Only thing for me besides the books.

70% of the time you leave up. It's wonder the casinos are still in business.

[pointman]

Jack and Jill went up the hill each with a buck and a quarter . . .

Oops, wrong Dice.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by jms62

70% of the time you leave up. It's wonder the casinos are still in business.

Why is that statement questionable to you?

Let's say your whole goal is to win $50 to pay for dinner and you have $350 to start with.

If you bet the Pass or Don't Pass -- you have a 49.3% chance of winning.

So -- Bet $50 - if you lose Bet $100 -- if you lose bet $200.

Your chances of losing 3 straight are just 13.03%

Your chances of winning without losing 3 straight are 86.97%.

So... 86.97% of the time you will achieve your goal of winning $50. 13% of the time... you will be exposed as an idiot.

Thus, you can win $50 87% and they still have an edge on you.

[kp319]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

I find walking up to a stern faced blackjack dealer much more intimidating. Craps is the only thing I play in a casino.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by kp319

I find walking up to a stern faced blackjack dealer much more intimidating. Craps is the only thing I play in a casino.

It very easy to get lost and be intimidated at the crap table, just because the amount of bets that there are. Also the fact that you have to shout out your bets might not work for someone who is the shy type (especially if you have no clue).
As far as Blackjack goes, it's not the dealer you have to worry about, it's the other players. If you do something stupid, that's who you are going to hear it from.

[satan's twin]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The 'Don't Pass' bet at the dice table is only a 1.4% takeout. And the Pass bet is like a 1.6% takeout and you can bet 10 times in the back at a 0.00% takeout after the first roll.

If you think about it --- the dice table is a great place to take your girlfriend or wife on a date.

Also... if you're going to bet on something just for the sake of betting on something and getting that action buzz ... why would you play anything else but the dice table? The house edge is laughably low. It's befudding walking around a casino and seeing only two dice tables going -- one at a $5 minimum and another a $10 min ... and yet you see all the other equally mindless games and stupid machines rocking and rolling.

Craps is a great game, and as you point out, an incredibly safe bet on a few plays. Once you learn the game, you'll be utterly amazed by the number of stupid bets the average player insists on making roll after roll even when the odds are stacked so heavily in the house's favor. Too many players have no clue how to play. Because the game is fast and exciting, almost any gambler will be drawn to it, if they don't allow themselves to be intimidated by their lack of knowledge of the rules. Just play the pass line for your first few visits, learn the game by watching, then pound it harder when you get your confidence and experience.

As far as a great date opportunity, if the gypsy you're with doesn't like craps, dump her and find one that does.