Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-09-2011, 12:13 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default They should review some old DRF's on this one...

http://www.drf.com/news/laurel-rapid...cord-wins-year


Quote:
The 5-year-old Rapid Redux, trained by David Wells and owned by Robert Cole, will go for his 19th win of 2011 in Tuesday’s sixth race at Laurel, a starter allowance for horses who have run for a claiming price of $5,000 or less the past two seasons. The 1 1/16-mile race drew six other runners, including Zosogood, a winner of three straight races at Monmouth Park since mid-October.

As part of his Triple Crown campaign in 1948, Citation won 19 races, matching the single-season total by the Hall of Famer Roseben as a 4-year-old in 1905. Rapid Redux can tie that post 19th-century mark for a Thoroughbred based in the continental United States.
Donald Macdonald won 22 races in 1913 ... and as far as I can tell .. Palmetto, Charleston, Belmont, Pimlico, Havre De Grace, and Laurel are all tracks in the continental United Stakes.





Found this pretty interesting:







A young Warren Buffet would send away to Chicago and have stacks and stacks of old DRF's sent to him so he could handicap races from all over and test methods ... than go the next issue and see what happened in the result charts. Think of how incredibly psychotic and wasteful of time something like that is in the Pre-Internet era?

I think he became the richest man in the world for a short stint ... so if it was good enough for him in his teenage years ... the process wouldn't hurt anyone else in a time when technology has made it thousands of times easier, less psychotic, and FAR less wasteful of time.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-09-2011, 12:16 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

I went through the same thing with a guy on Bloodhorse that wrote the same basic article today.

In other news related to the race, lets see if we can guess which horses will be bought out...errrrr...scratch out.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-09-2011, 01:36 AM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Doug send an email or make a call. Im sure you know someone who knows someone. This seems pretty clear cut and it should be recognized.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-09-2011, 01:42 AM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

Did that bottom horse in the list really have 340 lifetime starts at the time of printing?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-10-2011, 03:13 PM
Slewbopper Slewbopper is offline
Narragansett Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 568
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie View Post
Did that bottom horse in the list really have 340 lifetime starts at the time of printing?
It says he was 7 at the time. If he started at 2 that would be an average of 63 starts a year. The Sugar Ray Robinson of horses.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-11-2011, 07:51 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

It absolutely amazes me that other publications are still reporting incorrect information. . . Drugs, did your comment get deleted on Paulick Report?
__________________
@BDiDonatoTDN
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-09-2011, 07:51 AM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
I went through the same thing with a guy on Bloodhorse that wrote the same basic article today.

In other news related to the race, lets see if we can guess which horses will be bought out...errrrr...scratch out.
No Brakes...doesn't Sancuk train for Cole? On another note Derwin's Prospector looks like a real threat in there.

Last edited by Duvalier : 12-09-2011 at 08:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-09-2011, 01:49 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
No Brakes...doesn't Sancuk train for Cole? On another note Derwin's Prospector looks like a real threat in there.
No Brakes can win that race. I would play that pick 3 because the 2 races after it are decent allowance races. If it stays together, meaning no scratches Ill play No Brakes.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-09-2011, 03:23 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
No Brakes...doesn't Sancuk train for Cole? On another note Derwin's Prospector looks like a real threat in there.
I'm sure he was just entered to make the race fill. He won't run. You guys do realize the cash and horses are changing hands to keep this ridiculous streak going, right?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-09-2011, 03:29 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
I'm sure he was just entered to make the race fill. He won't run. You guys do realize the cash and horses are changing hands to keep this ridiculous streak going, right?
That was my point with No Brakes. The Frock horse...well I'm sure you can read the PPs.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-09-2011, 03:31 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
I'm sure he was just entered to make the race fill. He won't run. You guys do realize the cash and horses are changing hands to keep this ridiculous streak going, right?
If thats true its bullshit. Plus who cares about this anyway, I really dont. Starter allowance crap.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-09-2011, 03:32 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
If thats true its bullshit. Plus who cares about this anyway, I really dont. Starter allowance crap.
Apparently, people at all the media outlets care as they printing these stupid stories.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-12-2011, 03:23 PM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,292
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
I'm sure he was just entered to make the race fill. He won't run. You guys do realize the cash and horses are changing hands to keep this ridiculous streak going, right?
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...d-by-stewards/

Any idea what the powerball numbers are going to be this week?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-12-2011, 03:33 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...d-by-stewards/

Any idea what the powerball numbers are going to be this week?
I didn't do a lot of research on the connections this time, but I'm guessing RR scratches out.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...d-by-stewards/

Any idea what the powerball numbers are going to be this week?
Scooter Davis is a notorious cheat.

He's been suspended more often than any other trainer in America... this is one of his best training jobs...




Here's Mountaineer trainer Ralphie the Cat on Scooter getting caught on his 31st Last Chance.

http://forum.turfnsport.com/general-...l-warning.html
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-13-2011, 12:47 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...d-by-stewards/

Any idea what the powerball numbers are going to be this week?
Nice to see Merasmag (Sharon) found a place to post
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-13-2011, 10:37 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...d-by-stewards/

Any idea what the powerball numbers are going to be this week?
Looks like only the ridiculous horse scratched out so far. When you think about it, they have the streak record already. If they want to break the record that isn't really a record, they almost have to run now. There isn't much time left.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-09-2011, 02:28 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

'6991' was his first race of the year 1913 - a column and result chart both confirmed this...



So his 1913 record is 5-4-0-0 at this point.






11-9-0-0 in 1913 at this point.






21-13-5-1 in 1913 at this point.



* This following past performance cut was taken from a race at Havre De Grace on Sept 28th 1913



28-17-8-1 in 1913 at this point.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-09-2011, 02:29 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

* He would win this Sept 28th race at Havre De Grace to move to 29-18-8-1 at this point of the year in 1913.






This is the first cut of his past performances that can be found available on the Internet in the year 1914:







It's very clear that he raced at the following tracks in 1913:

* Palmetto Park in Charleston South Carolina. From there to Havre De Grace - a famous old Maryland track. From there to Pimlico. From there to Belmont Park. From there one stop at Saratoga. From there back to Havre De Grace. And Laurel for the winter. All United States racetracks.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.