Why I'm leaving the Republican Party - Jeff Wartman

[Riot]

Welcome to the real world, Jeff.

Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama.
January 5th, 2012

I’m leaving the Republican Party. No longer can I say with a clear conscience that the Republican Party is focused on solving problems will benefit average Americans.

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http://jeffwartman.com/why-im-leavin...esident-obama/

In some ways, I am what used to be called a “Rockefeller Republican” — moderate, pragmatic, private sector minded. Fiscally responsible, socially tolerant. However, with the rightward shift in the Republican Party, it seems like the old socially tolerant Republicans are an endangered species.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Welcome to the real world, Jeff.

He sounds like a Huntsman guy to me. Obama?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

He sounds like a Huntsman guy to me. Obama?

I could consider Huntsman. He's very typical of what Republicans used to be before they became wholly owned by the John Birch Society members of the party.

You know, Mitt Romney has been so disastrous in the last couple of days (what he's said in public), and the GOP doesn't like him any more now than when they chose McCain over him. I wonder if Huntsman will end up the GOP nominee? Huntsman is the only one of them with any chance to beat Obama.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

I could consider Huntsman. He's very typical of what Republicans used to be before they became wholly owned by the John Birch Society members of the party.

You know, Mitt Romney has been so disastrous in the last couple of days (what he's said in public), and the GOP doesn't like him any more now than when they chose McCain over him. I wonder if Huntsman will end up the GOP nominee? Huntsman is the only one of them with any chance to beat Obama.

I think in a general election Huntsman buries Obama. He is by far the only electable guy on either side.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I think in a general election Huntsman buries Obama. He is by far the only electable guy on either side.

Shame Huntsman has to be admired (by me) for simply saying things like climate change is real and man contributes to it, and political dogma as demonstrated by the GOP (Romney, he's talkin' to you!) has divided this country.

I'd vote Obama over Huntsman, in a minute, because Huntsman goes with the proven failed Republican economic policies. Socially, he's what Republicans used to be: quite human and caring.

I read the teaser thread title on the main page and got all excited ready to post the "well...bye" youtube.

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[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

I could consider Huntsman. He's very typical of what Republicans used to be before they became wholly owned by the John Birch Society members of the party.

You know, Mitt Romney has been so disastrous in the last couple of days (what he's said in public), and the GOP doesn't like him any more now than when they chose McCain over him. I wonder if Huntsman will end up the GOP nominee? Huntsman is the only one of them with any chance to beat Obama.

it's hard for me to envision a lane for huntsman to the nomination.

the republican party has been invigorated by tea party activists. they had huge success in 2010 and are expecting the same in 2012.

i get the search for a romney alternative by republican's that think he's too moderate. but i don't see anyone looking for the more moderate alternative to mitt.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

the republican party has been invigorated by tea party activists. they had huge success in 2010 and are expecting the same in 2012.

The GOP is so unhappy with the TeaPublicans, the GOP themselves are redistricting many of them out at the state level (Walsh IL, West FL, for example)

There is no way the GOP can win 2012 IMO. Their nominee is Mr. 1% corporate-owned robot with no personality in the era of Occupy. The guy is an empty vessel of, "I'll say whatever you want me to say if I can be President". He has no soul, no purpose, no core. He literally flip-flops and contradicts within sentences of himself (Saturday night debate)

The party as it used to be is collapsing upon itself. Socially they are so out of step as to be obsolete. Economically they will never escape Bush trashing the country, and the failure of Reaganomics. They traded their souls for 2010, and now the devil has quickly collected. We are witnessing the destruction. Whether the remnants will be able to someday coalesce into something different, to remain a viable major party, remains to be seen. But it's Democrats and Independents now, with the Independents being former Republicans, real progressives, and the usual Ron Paul types. The "Republican Party" pretty much claims the evangelicals only, the southern rural section of the US, and that's only about 25% of the populace, max. The GOP is now the party of anger and hate. They are the party that boos active duty soldiers; and cheers people dying when they don't have insurance, and executions. They are the party of Rush Limbaugh's vitriol and hate, and Fox News. Not something many want to be associated with any longer.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

The GOP is so unhappy with the foolish TeaPublicans, the GOP themselves are redistricting many of them out at the state level (Walsh IL, West FL, for example)

karl rove is a realist. they lost delaware and nevada senate seats that by all rights should have gone republican in 2010.

no one should be surprised to see redistricting used to build a governable majority.

that usually means democrats build the maximum safe districts for democrats in states where they control the process and ditto for republicans.

they'll cut out a few outliers but it's mainly built to protect incumbents.

which is why (i'm talking to you danny) it's a waste of time to concentrate on term limits as a solution.

does it really matter when the chief of staff for a (republican) (democratic) congressman succeeds them due to term limits?

stop letting elected officials draw their own districts and you'll have a lot fewer safe incumbents.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

The GOP is so unhappy with the TeaPublicans, the GOP themselves are redistricting many of them out at the state level (Walsh IL, West FL, for example)

There is no way the GOP can win 2012 IMO. Their nominee is Mr. 1% corporate-owned robot with no personality in the era of Occupy. The guy is an empty vessel of, "I'll say whatever you want me to say if I can be President". He has no soul, no purpose, no core. He literally flip-flops and contradicts within sentences of himself (Saturday night debate)

The party as it used to be is collapsing upon itself. Socially they are so out of step as to be obsolete. Economically they will never escape Bush trashing the country, and the failure of Reaganomics. They traded their souls for 2010, and now the devil has quickly collected. We are witnessing the destruction. Whether the remnants will be able to someday coalesce into something different, to remain a viable major party, remains to be seen. But it's Democrats and Independents now, with the Independents being former Republicans, real progressives, and the usual Ron Paul types. The "Republican Party" pretty much claims the evangelicals only, the southern rural section of the US, and that's only about 25% of the populace, max. The GOP is now the party of anger and hate. They are the party that boos active duty soldiers; and cheers people dying when they don't have insurance, and executions. They are the party of Rush Limbaugh's vitriol and hate, and Fox News. Not something many want to be associated with any longer.

i have no idea where you get your optimism.

i think the only chance we have is holding onto the white house and that's going to be touch and go if we're extremely lucky on the economy.

people i talk to are pissed off and blame the government.

i'm not saying they're right. i'm just saying it's a tough election when you're playing defense in that environment.