Union Rags Derby odds?

[tiznowthegreat]

Do you think he will go off at over or below 5/1?

I know we have another round of derby preps, with particularly Hansens performance having a big impact, but what are anybody's early thoughts?

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat

Do you think he will go off at over or below 5/1?

I know we have another round of derby preps, with particularly Hansens performance having a big impact, but what are anybody's early thoughts?

Even if Hansen wins the Bluegrass in a romp. I think UR will be the favorite for the Derby at 5-1.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Even if Hansen wins the Bluegrass in a romp. I think UR will be the favorite for the Derby at 5-1.

Imagine if had won a fast race?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Even if Hansen wins the Bluegrass in a romp. I think UR will be the favorite for the Derby at 5-1.

I think they are using the Bluegrass purely as conditioning for Hansen and are looking for the first time Syn to Dirt pop.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by jms62

I think they are using the Bluegrass purely as conditioning for Hansen and are looking for the first time Syn to Dirt pop.

Agree, but with his record on synthetics, I'm not sure it matters.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by jms62

I think they are using the Bluegrass purely as conditioning for Hansen and are looking for the first time Syn to Dirt pop.

I presume you mean second-time synth to dirt...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I presume you mean second-time synth to dirt...

Didn't look back at the PP's there, sorry.

[HaloWishingwell]

when in doubt Churchill will overbet Borel. Gemologist will take money from those fascinated with the undefeated

[justindew]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Even if Hansen wins the Bluegrass in a romp. I think UR will be the favorite for the Derby at 5-1.

Agreed, unfortunately.

Union Rags 5-1
Gemologist 6-1
Creative Cause 8-1
Take Charge Indy 8-1
I'll Have Another 10-1
Hansen 12-1
Bodemeister 12-1
Alpha 14-1

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by justindew

Agreed, unfortunately.

Union Rags 5-1
Gemologist 6-1
Creative Cause 8-1
Take Charge Indy 8-1
I'll Have Another 10-1
Hansen 12-1
Bodemeister 12-1
Alpha 14-1

Alpha lost by a head to Gemologist and I get twice the price not too mention Ramon and Juicy McLaughlin? Union Rags can win but he had better run a lot faster then he has been..5/1 is a serious underlay

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by justindew

Agreed, unfortunately.

Union Rags 5-1
Gemologist 6-1
Creative Cause 8-1
Take Charge Indy 8-1
I'll Have Another 10-1
Hansen 12-1
Bodemeister 12-1
Alpha 14-1

If the race was today, I'd take the Cause as my most likely, but 12-1 on Hansen would be tough to resist.

I agree with just about everyone that Rags will be the lukewarm favorite. His Beyers are light, but his sheet numbers are still better going back to last year, and he just looks the part.

[Hoist Her Flag]

It's nice to have six or seven horses that you can actually make a case for. The last few years it was one or two. Or more who you didn't like

[Mike]

Creative Cause and I'll Have Another all out to beat a 30k maiden claimer. Gemologist,Alpha, Union Rags and El Padrino couldn't crack a 100 Beyer either.

All of these horse seem very consistent, but,
I'm still looking for something out there that I haven't seen yet.

Who's the speed of the speed in the Derby, potentially?