Pval returns with a million dollar race win

Well hes done it again. No matter how many times he goes AWOL, when Pval returns he never ceases to amaze everyone. Guy picks up his first mount back off his most recent AWOL and gives an incredibly perfect ride and nails the Woodbine Mile.
What interested me were his comments after the race about his back and his workout program.
I know you can't believe anything he says but is it perhaps possible that his back really was killing him and that it was the problem?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well hes done it again. No matter how many times he goes AWOL, when Pval returns he never ceases to amaze everyone. Guy picks up his first mount back off his most recent AWOL and gives an incredibly perfect ride and nails the Woodbine Mile.
What interested me were his comments after the race about his back and his workout program.
I know you can't believe anything he says but is it perhaps possible that his back really was killing him and that it was the problem?

Could be, but I dont know anyone who needs to spend 30 days in a hospital for a back problem. I like how his head was shaved. Say what you want about him, but that man can freaking ride.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Could be, but I dont know anyone who needs to spend 30 days in a hospital for a back problem. I like how his head was shaved. Say what you want about him, but that man can freaking ride.

Can you even begin to imagine what status and wealth he would have had he stayed clean?
People forget that he was Sunday Silences rider that year before he went nuts and lost the end of the year mount to McCarron in the Classic. That was 18 years ago.
I'd say had he stayed clean he'd hold every record in earnings that there ever was and there might not have been Jerry Bailey to the extent that there was Jerry Bailey. He would have had a rival to all those big mounts.
Pval is certainly the bigest tragedy in the game. I'd dare say he is the most talented rider to ever sit in a saddle. Too bad he wasted 90% of it.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Can you even begin to imagine what status and wealth he would have had he stayed clean?
People forget that he was Sunday Silences rider that year before he went nuts and lost the end of the year mount to McCarron in the Classic. That was 18 years ago.
I'd say had he stayed clean he'd hold every record in earnings that there ever was and there might not have been Jerry Bailey to the extent that there was Jerry Bailey. He would have had a rival to all those big mounts.
Pval is certainly the bigest tragedy in the game. I'd dare say he is the most talented rider to ever sit in a saddle. Too bad he wasted 90% of it.

In his prime, the best of the last 20 years to me was Stevens. But P Val has no weaknesses on the track and is the best gate rider I ever saw.

[Siena 16]

Best ride I ever seen at Saratoga was by PVal on Very Subtle in the Test Stakes. The horse was unbeaten around one turn going into the race and remained that way after. But some of you guys like Oracle may have been a little young to remember.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

He made just enough money to go MIA again
You can probally buy alot of crack with 60K

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by LOSE=GLUE

He made just enough money to go MIA again
You can probally buy alot of crack with 60K

Be nice!

He's had a rough time of it..... VERY happy he's back.

[Gander]

Hope he gets better. Really do. He doesnt have much of a lifespan if he keeps on the nose candy. Hes only fooling himself.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Be nice!

He's had a rough time of it..... VERY happy he's back.

I am sorry! you know how I get, when they keep putting loopholes in his license agreement and he has attorneys find them and then exploits them.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

The odd thing about Pat is that whatever issues he has:

1)seem to bother others (that he has no contact with)a lot more than him.He has always been a pretty upbeat guy.This is a very positive person.Matter of fact,too positive,for some folks.If I have one complaint against the guy,it is the depression state that was claimed a few years back.This is one guy that has been given the gift of a positive attitude.I can't really see the guy being depressed more than a day or 2 about anything.I think he is one of the most positive/confident people I have ever seen.

2)haven't been an issue in any of the races he has ridden in.This guy has been riding off and on for what 27 years now? I haven't heard one complaint from anybody about him being high while riding a horse.Has he ever been accused of being reckless for any other reason than that he is ultra-aggressive? I don't think so.

I know this guy has botched fewer rides % wise for me than most all of those guys out there.To me,he appears to be a horseplayer's best friend.Not only that,but he is doing what he was evidently created to do(ride horses.)He is a productive member of society.Can you really ask much more than that from a drug addict? How many drug addicts help their daughters etc. get through College or whatever they want to do in life.Lets not just ignore the fact that this guy has a lot of family and friends in those winners circle photos.How many drug addicts even have a relationship of any kind with their kids,and family? I want the guy "clean" when he rides. As far as I can tell,he is.I think if people knew how dehydrated these jocks sometimes are(to make weight,)they would be a lot more worried about that than what some experienced high-performing jock does when he isn't riding for a few weeks or months.

[PSH]

PVAL whatever you want to say about him one thing we can agree on is his natural riding ability. As stated before, there is no one better out of the gate than him and when he is straight and riding there is no one in So Cal that can touch him, especially with Go Go back east now....

I remember after Antley died (another rider of extreme natural given ability) Baffert told PVAL that he should take notice because that can easily be him next.... Unfortunately, addicts are generally addicted for life and PVAL's actions attest how hard it is for someone to get off the habit.

PSH

He's the best in the game when he's playing.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

It bothers the normal Joe cause if any of us got a bad test at work we would of been canned, and this guy has a green light to go and party for a few months every year and still maintain good standing with the CHRB.

[Honu]

Me, I could care less if the guy picks his nose and eats or if he rides races makes no diffirence to me. I can see how the betting public can adore him , he wins races and they get to cash tickets.
I know Pat , on the track and off, I find him to be a complete con artist and a very good , he should consider a job in the arts, the art of manipulation.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by merasmag

maybe he should team up with dwl on a permanent basis-lol-howya doin honu-how's the man (the tin one)?---i've been meaning to tease buffy about rht-seen him lately? what'da bout megahertz?

Well Meras Ive been in Hawaii for 10 days and just got back so Ill give you an update on The Tin Hombre as soon as I know. I dont think Ive ever had 10 days go by so fast <sigh> , back to the grind.