Belmont Winner

[munster705]

Union Rags

You can thank me later

[ateamstupid]

I'll thank you now for contributing to yet another underlaid mutuel on that sucker horse.

[munster705]

He was flying late in the Derby and had plenty of excuses.....I'll Have Another won't be at his best after running his eye balls off 2 in a row....the rest o them are heading to the glue factory after the race....

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by munster705

He was flying late in the Derby and had plenty of excuses.....I'll Have Another won't be at his best after running his eye balls off 2 in a row....the rest o them are heading to the glue factory after the race....

Sorry I asked.

[munster705]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Sorry I asked.

Why? Do you disagree?

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by munster705

Why? Do you disagree?

I'm not as against him as others. I was being sincere when asking for your rationale. But there are plenty of horses that can "fly late" and manage to continuously come up short as an underlay.

Personally, I don't think the speed ceiling is much higher than what rags has already shown. Thus, you're counting on iha regressing. I don't see that happening....at least not 14 points.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by munster705

He was flying late in the Derby and had plenty of excuses.....I'll Have Another won't be at his best after running his eye balls off 2 in a row....the rest o them are heading to the glue factory after the race....

How'd that work out with Went the Day Well?

[slotdirt]

I don't hate Union Rags in the Belmont, but I can't see how he'll improve enough to win. I think Matz overthought his options with him after the Derby.

[munster705]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

How'd that work out with Went the Day Well?

Went the Day Well was always questionable on dirt....Union Rags is not.

[blackthroatedwind]

Given the brilliance of your last Belmont Stakes selection, I doubt anyone on this board will ignore your selection....

Originally Posted by munster705

Zito is making the right move with Ice Box. He will win the Belmont handily if he is 100%

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by munster705

Union Rags

You can thank me later

Can you provide your rationale?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by munster705

Union Rags

You can thank me later

I think this is what they mean by a cinch. We may even get a price.

[richard burch]

i think dullahan is a bigger threat than u.rags to ruin the crown.

[goodcopy]

Union Rags, Dullahan and Paynter all have a shot but have to be 5 to 1 or better(which in the case of Union Rags, Dullahan you won't get)
or I would not play them against a dual classic winner with proven tactical speed,a huge will to win and what might be the "Gods are with us" factor in a young talented jock and a whole nation rooting for him!
Paynter and Unstopple U appear to be enough "Speed types" or you just might see I'll Have Another go out and run them off there feet Ala Secretariat(no comparison intended)
Of course this is all speculative banter at this early juncture but I am going to be on pins and needles for 3 weeks talking thinking and hoping for a triple crown winner and ultimately a great story and uplifting event for our sport and the nation

[hud8118]

Reasons to like Union Rags...
1. Loves the Belmont strip
2. Best race is the stalking and pounce late - perfect for 1 1/2 miles.
3. Has shown ability to win with trouble.
4. Fresh and prepared by one of the best trainers in spotting a horse.
5. May get Johnny V who rides Belmont course well.
Questions which could go against betting Union Rags...
1. Has he improved over last year?
2. Is he a horse who gets himself in trouble?
3. Will he be bet too much as the alternative horse?
4. Is I'll Have Another just getting better and better and a faster horse?
I love Union Rags for the Belmont, but must admit I have been surprised by the ability of I'll Have Another, especially how he caught Bode in the Preakness. In the end though, hoping the public jumps all over IHA and inflates the price of Union Rags enough to bet (thinking about it at 4-1 but 5-1+ is what really needed for a logical bet).

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hud8118

Reasons to like Union Rags...
1. Loves the Belmont strip
2. Best race is the stalking and pounce late - perfect for 1 1/2 miles.
3. Has shown ability to win with trouble.
4. Fresh and prepared by one of the best trainers in spotting a horse.
5. May get Johnny V who rides Belmont course well.

1. Silly
2. OK, but his ped hardly screams 1 1/2 miles
3. Overrated trouble
4. Based on what?
5. I imagine whomever rides him will be a top jockey

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

1. Silly
2. OK, but his ped hardly screams 1 1/2 miles
3. Overrated trouble
4. Based on what?
5. I imagine whomever rides him will be a top jockey

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by hud8118

Reasons to like Union Rags...
1. Loves the Belmont strip
2. Best race is the stalking and pounce late - perfect for 1 1/2 miles.
3. Has shown ability to win with trouble.
4. Fresh and prepared by one of the best trainers in spotting a horse.
5. May get Johnny V who rides Belmont course well.
Questions which could go against betting Union Rags...
1. Has he improved over last year?
2. Is he a horse who gets himself in trouble?
3. Will he be bet too much as the alternative horse?
4. Is I'll Have Another just getting better and better and a faster horse?
I love Union Rags for the Belmont, but must admit I have been surprised by the ability of I'll Have Another, especially how he caught Bode in the Preakness. In the end though, hoping the public jumps all over IHA and inflates the price of Union Rags enough to bet (thinking about it at 4-1 but 5-1+ is what really needed for a logical bet).

He may finish second but not going to beat ill have Another . Will be lucky to hold off dullahan and alpha

[munster705]

Originally Posted by munster705

Union Rags

You can thank me later

You are welcome.....on wait...he can't get the distance right? Good call "experts". He would have beaten Ill Have Another too.

Don't spend that 5/2 in one place, super 'capper.

I had Atigun for some real cash. Enjoy though. 5/2 is much better. You're the only one who had it.