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Old 07-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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The Paulick Report is doing this. So far they have released the top 7 seeds.

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1s: Secretariat, Zenyatta, Man O' War, Ruffian
2s: Cigar, Rachel Alexandra, Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence
3s: Affirmed, Forego, Barbaro, John Henry
4s: Kelso, Seabiscuit, Alydar, Dr.Fager
5s: Tiznow, Alysheba, Spectacular Bid, Smarty Jones
6s: Curlin, Holy Bull, Big Brown, Easy Goer
7s: Native Dancer, Black Caviar, Phar Lap, Personal Ensign
I'm surprised Afleet Alex and Funny Cide didn't make the list.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:48 PM
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People would have to be more than 100 years old to remember Man O' War. His fans are all in the ground.

Zenyatta should win this easily. Even when she beat Rinterval and Dance To My Tune you'd think she just delivered a performance for the ages by the way her fans would go nuts.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:52 PM
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I've seen this on there and don't understand the point. Smarty Jones tops my list, why should I care how many other people like him. He's my favorite for my own reasons.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:18 PM
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I've had about what feels like 1,000 different horses I've liked for what feels like 100 totally different reasons.

Horses at all ability levels.

It's not very specific.

Easy Goer was the first race horse I was ever a fan of. I was a loyal fan of Strike The Gold even though he was a sucker horse. Fabulous Strike, I was not only a fan of his, but he was an excellent sprinter and I would visit him and pet him in the mornings when he was here.

Horses that meant good betting scores to me were obvious fan favorites to me. I once named a pet stray cat I took in after a high priced claiming horse named Boodles... the cat pissed all over the walls and I had to return him to the streets a few days later.

My E-mail address is named after a John Sherriffs debuter who paid $20 after he got put by DQ in his debut. He ended up racing for 5K later on in his career.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:06 PM
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The Paulick Report is doing this. So far they have released the top 7 seeds.



I'm surprised Afleet Alex and Funny Cide didn't make the list.
Was the Funny Cide beer any good? How a horse with their own beer doesn't make the top 7 seeds, I don't know.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious who's gonna win and then we'll have to read about her being the most beloved horse of all time or some such nonsense. I think that any of the ones with fans who gush online as if that horse reads and types their own blog should be docked a placement on the tournament. This should be the Sane Fan Favorite Tournament. It's not Phar Lap's fault he lived before the internet.

I'm sure when the remaining seeds come out, I'll be ready to grumble about who got hosed. Not that it matters. Life will go on.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:27 PM
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Was the Funny Cide beer any good?
I never had the Funny Cide beer. They named a street after him as well at Saratoga.

Empire Maker got loudly boo'd in the post parade. That's how crazy Funny Cide fans were... they'd boo another horse. Only time I really remember that ever happening.

Although, not to be outdone, I think ESPN reported that one of Zenyatta's fans made death threats against one of her opponets.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:30 PM
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Here it is:

http://zipseatthetrack.blogspot.com/...-to-horse.html


Unreal.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:47 PM
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I never had the Funny Cide beer. They named a street after him as well at Saratoga.

Empire Maker got loudly boo'd in the post parade. That's how crazy Funny Cide fans were... they'd boo another horse. Only time I really remember that ever happening.

Although, not to be outdone, I think ESPN reported that one of Zenyatta's fans made death threats against one of her opponets.
Funny Cide beer was made by Ole Saratoga Brewing Company, a micro brewery at the Spa......it was a "lite" beer also
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Funny Cide beer was made by Ole Saratoga Brewing Company, a micro brewery at the Spa......it was a "lite" beer also
I still have a couple in my garage...thirsty?
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I still have a couple in my garage...thirsty?
me too!
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Was the Funny Cide beer any good? .
The ice cream (made by Stewarts) was better!
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:11 PM
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I don't think I could drink any beer that was a "cide".

Spectacular Bid as a 5 seed? With Anticipation made the list?
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:28 PM
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Spectacular Bid wasn't an especially popular horse like a lot of champions from the 70's.

He wasn't a NY or California based horse with a built in fan base. His jockey and trainer were both VERY unlikeable people. Both in general, and with the racing press.

He came around at a time when he followed a bunch of very popular great racers (Secretariat, Ruffian, Forego, Affirmed, Alydar, Seattle Slew)

Unlike a lot of great horses, he was heavily traveled and heavily campaigned and tested all through his racing career and he even traveled all over and took on some big weight concessions at age 4 and he always made his competition look a lot worse than they actually were under closer and competent inspection.

I think Timeform made a mistake not rating him the outright number one horse of the last century. When you compare horses on merit, record for record, he simply holds an advantage over all of the other horses.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:33 PM
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Spectacular Bid wasn't an especially popular horse like a lot of champions from the 70's.

He wasn't a NY or California based horse with a built in fan base. His jockey and trainer were both VERY unlikeable people. Both in general, and with the racing press.

He came around at a time when he followed a bunch of very popular great racers (Secretariat, Ruffian, Forego, Affirmed, Alydar, Seattle Slew)

Unlike a lot of great horses, he was heavily traveled and heavily campaigned and tested all through his racing career and he even traveled all over and took on some big weight concessions at age 4 and he always made his competition look a lot worse than they actually were under closer and competent inspection.

I think Timeform made a mistake not rating him the outright number one horse of the last century. When you compare horses on merit, record for record, he simply holds an advantage over all of the other horses.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:02 PM
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Spectacular Bid wasn't an especially popular horse like a lot of champions from the 70's.

He wasn't a NY or California based horse with a built in fan base. His jockey and trainer were both VERY unlikeable people. Both in general, and with the racing press.

He came around at a time when he followed a bunch of very popular great racers (Secretariat, Ruffian, Forego, Affirmed, Alydar, Seattle Slew)

Unlike a lot of great horses, he was heavily traveled and heavily campaigned and tested all through his racing career and he even traveled all over and took on some big weight concessions at age 4 and he always made his competition look a lot worse than they actually were under closer and competent inspection.

I think Timeform made a mistake not rating him the outright number one horse of the last century. When you compare horses on merit, record for record, he simply holds an advantage over all of the other horses.
The crowd at Belmont boo'ed during the his last race, the walkover.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:38 PM
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Spectacular Bid wasn't an especially popular horse like a lot of champions from the 70's.

He wasn't a NY or California based horse with a built in fan base. His jockey and trainer were both VERY unlikeable people. Both in general, and with the racing press.

He came around at a time when he followed a bunch of very popular great racers (Secretariat, Ruffian, Forego, Affirmed, Alydar, Seattle Slew)

Unlike a lot of great horses, he was heavily traveled and heavily campaigned and tested all through his racing career and he even traveled all over and took on some big weight concessions at age 4 and he always made his competition look a lot worse than they actually were under closer and competent inspection.

I think Timeform made a mistake not rating him the outright number one horse of the last century. When you compare horses on merit, record for record, he simply holds an advantage over all of the other horses.
yeah, bud delp rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. his comments that the bid was the best to ever look through a bridle weren't well received, especially coming so soon after secretariat, with two other tc winners right after. after all was said and done tho, i think delp was right. but people don't always want to hear the truth.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:07 PM
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I don't think I could drink any beer that was a "cide".

Spectacular Bid as a 5 seed? With Anticipation made the list?
Not gonna lie, don't mind With Anticipation personally as I was always a fan. Gorgeous grey, by Relaunch out of Fran's Valentine. Looked forward to it whenever he ran. I'd get it if others disagree. Not sure where he really ought to be ranked though. This tournament's in a bizarro universe anyway.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:54 PM
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Was the Funny Cide beer any good?
No, neither was the purple Zenyatta kool aid
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:43 AM
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They're doing a few matchups, asking you to "vote" by commenting on FB. Why don't you go tell Paulick who you prefer-- Secretariat or Groovy, Kelso or Better Talk Now. Gee, let me think. PS. Secret option C in all cases is Zenyatta.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:07 AM
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Sadly, Kelso is beating Better Talk Now in the voting.

1-seed Zenyatta VS 16-seed Lady's Secret.

Imagine if Wayne Lukas trained Zenyatta. That would have been scary.
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