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Old 08-25-2012, 06:39 PM
NoLuvForPletch NoLuvForPletch is offline
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Default pk4 payout to the Travers

That is a crime that the pk4 pays to both eaqually and the win/double and pk3 pay out separately.

My wife gets her wish. Pk4 is out of my betting menu.

I got roayally jobbed.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:58 PM
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That is a crime that the pk4 pays to both eaqually and the win/double and pk3 pay out separately.

My wife gets her wish. Pk4 is out of my betting menu.

I got roayally jobbed.


I would have to agree with you. I hope you atleast hit it to the bigger price.
It used to be the same way in California, but i think it is changed.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:22 PM
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The payoff on Golden Ticket dropped from $7,485 for $1 to $495, or over 93%. The payoff on Alpha dropped from $530 to $495, or just over 6%. How anyone can say this is remotely fair or acceptable is beyond me.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:53 PM
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It's completely "fair" and "acceptable" because it's in the rules

4011.26 (h) Dead heats. In the event of a dead heat for win in any or all pick four races, all pick four tickets designating either horse to win in said race or races shall be eligible for participation in the remaining pick four races, and the net pool shall be equally distributed to the winners, that is, the net pool will be divided by the total amount represented by all winning tickets and the resulting price, per dollar, and after breakage, shall be the payoff price, which shall be uniform for any winning combination.

If you don't know the rules of a bet and you still play it, it's your fault when something like this happens.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:07 PM
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It's completely "fair" and "acceptable" because it's in the rules

4011.26 (h) Dead heats. In the event of a dead heat for win in any or all pick four races, all pick four tickets designating either horse to win in said race or races shall be eligible for participation in the remaining pick four races, and the net pool shall be equally distributed to the winners, that is, the net pool will be divided by the total amount represented by all winning tickets and the resulting price, per dollar, and after breakage, shall be the payoff price, which shall be uniform for any winning combination.

If you don't know the rules of a bet and you still play it, it's your fault when something like this happens.
How is it the bettors fault when a dead heat happens?
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:10 PM
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How is it the bettors fault when a dead heat happens?
It's the bettor's fault for playing the bet and not knowing the rules.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:19 PM
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How is it the bettors fault when a dead heat happens?
I think the point was that they know it's a possibility and should bet accordingly. The rule is clear and everybody should know it going in. It's not an obscure scenario to have a dead heat, is it? Does it suck that someone's payout was affected? Sure. I'd feel hosed. Looking over the rule, though, it seems pretty logical. Not really sure how to make it any "fairer." Many people seem to think fair is whatever result nets them more money as opposed to what makes more sense.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:58 AM
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It's completely "fair" and "acceptable" because it's in the rules

4011.26 (h) Dead heats. In the event of a dead heat for win in any or all pick four races, all pick four tickets designating either horse to win in said race or races shall be eligible for participation in the remaining pick four races, and the net pool shall be equally distributed to the winners, that is, the net pool will be divided by the total amount represented by all winning tickets and the resulting price, per dollar, and after breakage, shall be the payoff price, which shall be uniform for any winning combination.

If you don't know the rules of a bet and you still play it, it's your fault when something like this happens.
Thanks for being voice of reason... I will gladly trade my tickets that had Nonios and Street Life.

If one does not like terms and conditions under which one chooses to wager, simply do not make wager. Personally, dead heat impacts a successful wager for me about every 5 to 7 years.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:16 AM
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Default Travers Pick 4

Thought it odd that there was just one payout no matter which horse you had, when the pick 3 had two.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:23 PM
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Serling commented on this on talking horses. Not sure who said what, I missed the shows on Capitalotb this morning. Not even sure if I was said on capital, but something was said and he responded. If anyone knows what exactly was said, I am curious.
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