Tough Day For Obama

[Thepaindispenser]

Jobless claims up, more QE, not having marines guard the embassy despite knowing about threats, not attending a daily security briefing in over a week, a moronic statement about Egypt, Clinton kissing radical Islamists asses, an attack on our embassy in Yemem. Brutal day for the completely overmatched and incompetent Obama. Today was the first day that Romney gained on Obama and that Obama's approval rating went down since the Democrat convention. Sayonara to the post-convention bounce for this idiot Obama. Expect further gains by Romney.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Jobless claims up, more QE, not having marines guard the embassy despite knowing about threats, not attending a daily security briefing in over a week, a moronic statement about Egypt, Clinton kissing radical Islamists asses, an attack on our embassy in Yemem. Brutal day for the completely overmatched and incompetent Obama. Today was the first day that Romney gained on Obama and that Obama's approval rating went down since the Democrat convention. Sayonara to the post-convention bounce for this idiot Obama. Expect further gains by Romney.

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

bah! you faithless american. romney will win and lead us to the promised land!!!

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

Don't be so sure, the convention gains are now gone. The middle east crisis most likely will be the last nail in Obama's coffin. The snub of Netanyahu will begin to drive the Jewish vote to the Republican's which is a potential disaster for Obama's chances. The ship is sinking for Obama right now and I highly doubt he can get the water off fast enough.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Don't be so sure, the convention gains are now gone. The middle east crisis most likely will be the last nail in Obama's coffin. The snub of Netanyahu will begin to drive the Jewish vote to the Republican's which is a potential disaster for Obama's chances. The ship is sinking for Obama right now and I highly doubt he can get the water off fast enough.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

yeah, but that's just one poll of many.

http://www.voanews.com/content/romne...n/1507542.html

WASHINGTON — In the U.S. presidential race, the latest public opinion polls suggest President Barack Obama has built a modest lead over his Republican challenger, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. But analysts say the race remains close as both campaigns prepare for a series of debates beginning October 3.

The most recent nationwide polls show President Barack Obama with a lead over challenger Mitt Romney of between three and seven points.

The surveys were made after the two party conventions and suggest President Obama received a bigger boost from his convention than Romney did from his. (did you see that last line, pain?)


.......note the gallup poll on the right hand side of the page.


and at the bottom:

In addition to a lead in national polls, President Obama also leads Romney in a number of closely contested so-called battleground states that will likely determine the outcome of the election November 6.

Speaking on VOA's Encounter program, Judd Legum of the Center for American Progress says President Obama has an advantage in the state-by-state competition for electoral college votes because he can afford to lose a few states he won four years ago and still win re-election.


a look at the polls, from slate:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ils_by_1_.html

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by jms62

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

If QE is such a great thing then why are we still not even close to getting out of this mess?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

If QE is such a great thing then why are we still not even close to getting out of this mess?

Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by jms62

Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

I just retread your post, yeah all the people who are unemployed, underemployed, discouraged, or stuck in a job that they hate will think the economy is humming because of the stock market. Or those who see little GDP growth and continued high unemployment will suddenly think the economy is strong. You were joking about that right? Most people vote based on their own experiences and financial situation.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by pointman

Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

What ever happen to Morty?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

what is your name?
what is your quest?
what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jms62

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

J, I honestly don't know if that's the truth anymore. Let's face it the middle class is hurting right now. If they are lucky to have a job, they probably haven't had a raise in years. The prices of everything are going up, except on their houses. People have very little money to live, let alone invest into the market. If anything it might be the inverse effect and the people who are struggling while working 2 jobs are getting jealous that the rich are getting richer and they have to continue to live life walking on a tightrope with no net. I want to believe that people are starting to understand how bad it is despite what the stock market does.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

J, I honestly don't know if that's the truth anymore. Let's face it the middle class is hurting right now. If they are lucky to have a job, they probably haven't had a raise in years. The prices of everything are going up, except on their houses. People have very little money to live, let alone invest into the market. If anything it might be the inverse effect and the people who are struggling while working 2 jobs are getting jealous that the rich are getting richer and they have to continue to live life walking on a tightrope with no net. I want to believe that people are starting to understand how bad it is despite what the stock market does.

Matt if they don't do QE3 and the markets ****ing tank big time going into November how do you think that would have helped Obama? Jimmy Rogers feels the same way, Bernanke did it to keep his job. We shall see. I see it as a ****ing boondoggle. Think about the law of unintended consequences, Fed is saying they will keep doing it until the labor market improves. The net affect is that it will inflate the markets and put a floor under it. Greedy bastard CEO's are the ones that will seriously profit from this. Why would they hire?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jms62

Matt if they don't do QE3 and the markets ****ing tank big time going into November how do you think that would have helped Obama? Jimmy Rogers feels the same way, Bernanke did it to keep his job. We shall see. I see it as a ****ing boondoggle. Think about the law of unintended consequences, Fed is saying they will keep doing it until the labor market improves. The net affect is that it will inflate the markets and put a floor under it. Greedy bastard CEO's are the ones that will seriously profit from this. Why would they hire?

I don't disagree with you there, my point was about people (middle-class) thinking things are good/getting better just because the market is flying.
I want to believe that people are starting to realize that this enitre thing is a house of cards.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't disagree with you there, my point was about people (middle-class) thinking things are good/getting better just because the market is flying.
I want to believe that people are starting to realize that this enitre thing is a house of cards.

Matt... Honey Boo Boo drew more viewers then the conventions. I rest my case.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by jms62

Matt if they don't do QE3 and the markets ****ing tank big time going into November how do you think that would have helped Obama? Jimmy Rogers feels the same way, Bernanke did it to keep his job. We shall see. I see it as a ****ing boondoggle. Think about the law of unintended consequences, Fed is saying they will keep doing it until the labor market improves. The net affect is that it will inflate the markets and put a floor under it. Greedy bastard CEO's are the ones that will seriously profit from this. Why would they hire?

The Fed hopes this will create another housing bubble that won't pop for another decade or two. It as if the fed thinks our nation's economy should mirror Florida's in the early part of its decade when credit was easy and everyone could be a real estate speculator.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

The Fed hopes this will create another housing bubble that won't pop for another decade or two. It as if the fed thinks our nation's economy should mirror Florida's in the early part of its decade when credit was easy and everyone could be a real estate speculator.

the biggest problem with banking wasn't housing. it was the removal of the division between investment houses and banks. the resultant mess is what took the housing market down, along with much of the rest of the economy.
how housing was affected was with a credit crunch, which dried up money for loans. then house purchases suffered(along with jobs, etc) which then forced housing prices down...that lead to people who had home equity lines of credit to have that dry up, because if their house wasn't worth as much, it didn't have as much equity either.
higher interest rate housing loans weren't the major cause of the economic meltdown. instead, housing was one of many groups that suffered because of the idiocy engendered by both parties in removing the rules in glass/steagall that had so long prevented exactly what ended up occurring.
so, they added banking regs to prevent it again (and portions of glass/steagall were removed to allow u.s. banks and investors to keep up with another group of banks-europes. funny, they're in a mess too) and romney wants to remove those. he has a shorter memory than the congress and bill clinton did a few years back.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Jobless claims up, more QE, not having marines guard the embassy despite knowing about threats, not attending a daily security briefing in over a week, a moronic statement about Egypt, Clinton kissing radical Islamists asses, an attack on our embassy in Yemem. Brutal day for the completely overmatched and incompetent Obama. Today was the first day that Romney gained on Obama and that Obama's approval rating went down since the Democrat convention. Sayonara to the post-convention bounce for this idiot Obama. Expect further gains by Romney.

Mitt landslide


http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt...released-today

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Mitt landslide


http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt...released-today

'A projection of how the race might look if Romney has strong performances in the three presidential debates.'


er, that's a lot of 'ifs' isn't it?

[Cannon Shell]

I am still amazed that after that historic and moving speech Obama gave in Egypt a few years ago that moved Riot to weep, that his vast "understanding" of the region has been been so effective in promoting America in North Africa and the Middle East.

I guess we are finding out that pandering is far more effective in American politics than the real world.