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Old 09-25-2006, 03:49 PM
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Thumbs down Gas Prices you knew this was commin!

OK how is it that gas is now about half the price it was 2 months ago? We are getting it up the (you fill it in)! The damn goverment says the oil industry is to blame, bulldookie they are the ones that get all the kickbacks from the oil industry we are being lied to everyday as americans in the land of the free.
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:57 PM
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OK how is it that gas is now about half the price it was 2 months ago? We are getting it up the (you fill it in)! The damn goverment says the oil industry is to blame, bulldookie they are the ones that get all the kickbacks from the oil industry we are being lied to everyday as americans in the land of the free.
That's a bunch of bullshiat... the government doesn't control the price of gas. The market for oil does. If the price of oil goes up, then so does our gasoline price.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:41 PM
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OK how is it that gas is now about half the price it was 2 months ago? We are getting it up the (you fill it in)! The damn goverment says the oil industry is to blame, bulldookie they are the ones that get all the kickbacks from the oil industry we are being lied to everyday as americans in the land of the free.

Where I live gas topped out around 3.40/gallon and is currently 2.90/gallon.

I'll accept your initial statement (gas is 1/2 the price it was 2 months ago) as an exageration to make a point.

Individual politicians have blamed the oil industry for the run up but I've never seen an actual government official responsible for the matter make that accusation. If they had I would have expected indictments to follow in days. I want you to source your statement there. Which goverment official blamed the oil industry (for the run up, I assume)?

My own theory is that industrialization in China, India and other countries is placing a demand strain on a limited resourse. Okay. It's not really my theory. But it does make sense.

2.90 seems cheap now. A time will come when 10.00/gallon looks cheap. In your lifetime.

The good news is we will never run out of oil. The same way that you could have projected an end to whale oil (the prefered source for light before kerosene) based on demand/supply other energy sources will become economically viable at higher oil prices.

Here's a helpful suggestion: Don't blame the oil companies. Don't blame the governmement. Blame yourself. If you bought gas at $3.40/gallon like I did then by definition you found that a fair deal. Stop buying it and the price drops.

A nation that drives low milage SUV's and trucks and wants to find out why gas is so high is in denial.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:52 PM
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It's Clinton's fault gas was so high.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:08 PM
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It's Clinton's fault gas was so high.

Now now, when Clinto bragged about getting a hummer, I don't think he was referring to the vehicle!
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:20 PM
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Now now, when Clinto bragged about getting a hummer, I don't think he was referring to the vehicle!
best post i've seen in some time!!!

to say it's the prez's fault when things go bad, or to give credit when things go well is ridiculous. we live in a capitalistic, free market society. oil goes up, which makes gas go up. now oil is down, so gas is down. and as much as we all screamed about the price the last few months...guess what? we were still buying it. so why the hell would they lower the price if they were still selling it??
oh, that's right. cause bush said so. ummmm, yeah.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:51 PM
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Now now, when Clinto bragged about getting a hummer, I don't think he was referring to the vehicle!

One of the funniest posts I've ever seen.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:16 PM
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It's Clinton's fault gas was so high.
Pillow,
I'm a very big cynic on this topic.
back in the '70's during the "oil embargo", all I had to do was drive along the Palisades Parkway along the Hudson to see loaded tankers, one after another, all full but not off loading at the NJ refineries, to prove to me that the market can and is manipulated. People were lined up at gas stations, coming in with cans for gas due to the "gas shortage".
Did the price go up then?

So, now we have elections coming in November. Do you think production is up for a reason? Sure prices are coming down..for now.
Do you think the Saudis got a call to have them do a favor? They'll go down just long enough for people to forget the high prices of the past year...watch what happens to the prices in Dec. and Jan.
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Old 09-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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Pillow,
I'm a very big cynic on this topic.
back in the '70's during the "oil embargo", all I had to do was drive along the Palisades Parkway along the Hudson to see loaded tankers, one after another, all full but not off loading at the NJ refineries, to prove to me that the market can and is manipulated. People were lined up at gas stations, coming in with cans for gas due to the "gas shortage".
Did the price go up then?

So, now we have elections coming in November. Do you think production is up for a reason? Sure prices are coming down..for now.
Do you think the Saudis got a call to have them do a favor? They'll go down just long enough for people to forget the high prices of the past year...watch what happens to the prices in Dec. and Jan.
DTS..if you saw tankers stacked up on the Hudson...refusing to unload crude..so be it. And yes the price at the pump went up. Crude oil sky rocketed...so price at the pump, on whatever product was available, went up. This time we topped out at about $75 per barrel...back in the early 80's, after the embargo, the highest price I remember was about $46 per barrel. So prices, at the pump, went up in both cases.

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Old 09-25-2006, 06:33 PM
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I still think the goverment invaded iraq for the oil, thats is my own opinon. People in iraq (not all but most) needed some one to make them follow a fine line, and i am not sayin i like saddam i am glad he is gone but now look at the mess it has put the american people in and the goverment just sits in there big ole office while we send out the guys just tryin to better there lives over there on basically suicide missions cause they don't really even know who wants to shake their hand and who wants to shoot them just IMO!
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:18 PM
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DTS..if you saw tankers stacked up on the Hudson...refusing to unload crude..so be it. And yes the price at the pump went up. Crude oil sky rocketed...so price at the pump, on whatever product was available, went up. This time we topped out at about $75 per barrel...back in the early 80's, after the embargo, the highest price I remember was about $46 per barrel. So prices, at the pump, went up in both cases.

Ez
Ez,
The fact is that they weren't refusing to unload. They weren't allowed to.
One of my friend's fathers ran a company called Hudson River Pilots. The company takes pilots out to the ships while outside NY harbor and guides them in to their destination inside the port.
Since the tankers couldn't off load, they anchored them.

All I was attempting to say is that the oil market can be manipulated.
I don't remember $75 per barrel in the 80's, but I'll take your word on it.

btw...oil isn't flowing out of Iraq because the pipelines keep getting sabotaged.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:54 PM
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Pillow,
I'm a very big cynic on this topic.
back in the '70's during the "oil embargo", all I had to do was drive along the Palisades Parkway along the Hudson to see loaded tankers, one after another, all full but not off loading at the NJ refineries, to prove to me that the market can and is manipulated. People were lined up at gas stations, coming in with cans for gas due to the "gas shortage".
Did the price go up then?

So, now we have elections coming in November. Do you think production is up for a reason? Sure prices are coming down..for now.
Do you think the Saudis got a call to have them do a favor? They'll go down just long enough for people to forget the high prices of the past year...watch what happens to the prices in Dec. and Jan.

Hmmmmm...no this may be the funniest.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:23 PM
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Hmmmmm...no this may be the funniest.
Indep Geo,
You obviously know far more than I do about Saudi oil production. You probably have the capacity of exports from Jan - June, so I won't provide them.
There's no need to apologize for your insult.
If you found humor in what I've said, it balances the pathetic feeling I get from reading your "expertise".

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...DE61A68081D%7D
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:02 PM
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Pillow,
I'm a very big cynic on this topic.
back in the '70's during the "oil embargo", all I had to do was drive along the Palisades Parkway along the Hudson to see loaded tankers, one after another, all full but not off loading at the NJ refineries, to prove to me that the market can and is manipulated. People were lined up at gas stations, coming in with cans for gas due to the "gas shortage".
Did the price go up then?

So, now we have elections coming in November. Do you think production is up for a reason? Sure prices are coming down..for now.
Do you think the Saudis got a call to have them do a favor? They'll go down just long enough for people to forget the high prices of the past year...watch what happens to the prices in Dec. and Jan.
DTS, what are the Saudis independently going to do to lower price. The only way to lower world oil price is cut demand, or increase production. The Saudis are members of OPEC, and can't produce a significant more crude than what is allotted to them. I would say the drop in price is due to production catching up with todays demand...rather than some kind of election time conspiracy.

Ez
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:09 PM
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DTS, what are the Saudis independently going to do to lower price. The only way to lower world oil price is cut demand, or increase production. The Saudis are members of OPEC, and can't produce a significant more crude than what is allotted to them. I would say the drop in price is due to production catching up with todays demand...rather than some kind of election time conspiracy.

Ez
Ez,
Click on the "marketwatch" link in my previous post.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:11 PM
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Where I live gas topped out around 3.40/gallon and is currently 2.90/gallon.

I'll accept your initial statement (gas is 1/2 the price it was 2 months ago) as an exageration to make a point.

Individual politicians have blamed the oil industry for the run up but I've never seen an actual government official responsible for the matter make that accusation. If they had I would have expected indictments to follow in days. I want you to source your statement there. Which goverment official blamed the oil industry (for the run up, I assume)?

My own theory is that industrialization in China, India and other countries is placing a demand strain on a limited resourse. Okay. It's not really my theory. But it does make sense.

2.90 seems cheap now. A time will come when 10.00/gallon looks cheap. In your lifetime.

The good news is we will never run out of oil. The same way that you could have projected an end to whale oil (the prefered source for light before kerosene) based on demand/supply other energy sources will become economically viable at higher oil prices.

Here's a helpful suggestion: Don't blame the oil companies. Don't blame the governmement. Blame yourself. If you bought gas at $3.40/gallon like I did then by definition you found that a fair deal. Stop buying it and the price drops.

A nation that drives low milage SUV's and trucks and wants to find out why gas is so high is in denial.

I paid and even 2.00/gallon this afternoon for regular unleaded.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:50 PM
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OK how is it that gas is now about half the price it was 2 months ago? We are getting it up the (you fill it in)! The damn goverment says the oil industry is to blame, bulldookie they are the ones that get all the kickbacks from the oil industry we are being lied to everyday as americans in the land of the free.
About the most ridiculous post I've seen.
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